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Re:62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Af... by runarberg on Thursday July 23, 2020 @06:25PM (#23933287)
Note I specifically said that the platforms climate change deniers and anti-abortion bigots is no platform. I did not advocate for imprisoning these people. That would be wrong. People have the rights to their opinion, even though their opinion is wrong.

That said, wrong opinions—which I am willing to state exist—do not deserve to be elevated, they do deserve scrutiny if stated.

Banning abortions is a wrong opinion. Perhaps some people have some reason to hold this opinion, and perhaps not all of these people are bigots (although many are). However they are still wrong. And when these wrong options are stated, they do deserve to be scrutinized, and they don’t deserve to be elevated in the general discourse.

Re:62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Af... by JPKab on Thursday July 23, 2020 @06:50PM (#23933616)
I happen to share your opinion that banning abortions is not an ideal solution, and therefore I don't support it.

However, your statement "banning abortions is a wrong opinion" is itself an opinion. Yet you stated it as if it's a scientific certainty, when in fact it's an opinion you don't share. My wife and I debate it all the time, and it comes down to a prioritization difference in my mind vs her mind. I prioritize the privacy and rights of the pregnant woman over the future existence of the fetus. She views the fetus identically to one that has exited the birth canal and is now a baby. She doesn't think there is a break in the continuum. I disagree with her entirely, but that doesn't make me right and her wrong. It just means that I put a higher priority on the woman's freedom than I do on the right of the fetus to develop into a human. It's amusing to me that when my wife and I argue about this topic, she is focused on the rights of the fetus, and I'm focused on the rights of the woman. We aren't having one argument over a woman's rights, we are having two arguments simultaneously. This is a nuanced view that the current political debate doesn't allow for. Her view was obviously influenced by walking into a hospital and watching parents pray by the side of incubators containing 26 week preemies, and then seeing activists debating whether third-trimester abortions should be banned. I certainly don't blame her for having that opinion when she has to reconcile those two ideas simultaneously. It's a lot easier to hold the opinion that you and I share when we view fetuses clinically rather than in incubators.

Re:62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Af... by runarberg on Thursday July 23, 2020 @07:08PM (#23933794)
I agree: “Can opinions be wrong?” is an unresolved philosophical question. I am of the opinion that they can, and you may disagree with my. Under my philosophical framework your disagreement is not wrong.

However I don’t see the statement “Women have rights to their bodies” as an unresolved political question. I see it as a pretty clear truth, as true as “slavery is wrong and should be illegal”. I have my reasons to believe this is so (which I won’t go into because we are debating whether “everything is political”, not abortion rights). So under my philosophical framework anti-abortion is a wrong opinion to have. And I am certainly not the only person to believe this.

Re:62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Af... by missedthecue on Saturday July 25, 2020 @10:58PM (#23954057)
Great comment