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Re:My thoughts in response to the lawsuit against the Intern... by duxup on Thursday July 23, 2020 @04:16PM (#23931774)
It seems strange to loan a digital copy of ... someone else's book.

As for the lawsuit going on after they stopped lending, well yeah the legal matter wasn't settled, so it can go on.

Re:My thoughts in response to the lawsuit against the Intern... by jVinc on Thursday July 23, 2020 @04:32PM (#23931924)
Why should it seem strange? If you own stock I can lend it and sell it outright, and as long as I buy it back and provide it to you at the exit of the deal everything fine.

If you own a book and I buy it but under a deal that defines you should keep it locked up in a safe. I still own it and have the right to lend it out digitally under CDL, yet it's physically with you. Why is it strange to forgo that madness and just let me provide digital lending services on your behalf? I mean just because it's my lending system doesn't mean I should need to own everything that's being lend out. Amazon doesn't have to own everything they sell.

Re:My thoughts in response to the lawsuit against the Intern... by WalterBright on Thursday July 23, 2020 @04:37PM (#23931974)
Ironically, the same thing happens with banks under a fractional reserve system. If the bank has $1000 in gold, they can lend out a virtual $9000 of that gold.
Re:My thoughts in response to the lawsuit against the Intern... by duxup on Thursday July 23, 2020 @04:37PM (#23931966)
Did they actually make that deal about not lending out other people's books?

The article seems somewhat fuzzy on that...

Re:My thoughts in response to the lawsuit against the Intern... by quercusgrisea on Thursday July 23, 2020 @04:42PM (#23932017)
Why? A library lending someone a book belonging to a partner library because that library is not easily accessible to the lendee is common practice.
Re:My thoughts in response to the lawsuit against the Intern... by londons_explore on Thursday July 23, 2020 @06:11PM (#23933073)
But usually a van physically transports the book to the lendee...

I think the debate will be if making a digital copy and locking the original book in a safe is equivalent, and if I were a judge, I would say "no", because to say otherwise significantly weakens copyright in so many other ways.

Re:My thoughts in response to the lawsuit against the Intern... by esrauch on Thursday July 23, 2020 @06:58PM (#23933700)
It seems like "faster vans" and "more effective nagging people to immediately return books they have already finished" would also weaken copyright under that line of argument; both allow you to loan the same copy to more people in sequence.
Re:My thoughts in response to the lawsuit against the Intern... by pwinnski on Thursday July 23, 2020 @04:18PM (#23931798)
Yeah, I don't think they're going to win this one, either.

Their best bet is probably to shame the publishers into dropping the suit, since they won't actually win if it comes down to it.

I assume that's what this is meant to do: shame the publishers.

Re:My thoughts in response to the lawsuit against the Intern... by duxup on Thursday July 23, 2020 @04:20PM (#23931813)
Hopefully they can just settle it in a way that IA goes on, but maybe with some better guidance at the top of IA.
Re:My thoughts in response to the lawsuit against the Intern... by londons_explore on Thursday July 23, 2020 @06:13PM (#23933112)
If I were them, I would be signing perpetual data-sharing agreements with other sister companies and archives, and prepare to protect as much of the archive as possible in bankruptcy...
Re:My thoughts in response to the lawsuit against the Intern... by thatcat on Thursday July 23, 2020 @04:49PM (#23932098)
Not really. As long as they are documented to be not in use, then the first party can lend them to whoever, and they can lend to whoever.. and so on as long as the chain links back to a real book paid for then it makes perfect technical sense.