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Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by quest88 on Thursday July 23, 2020 @09:53AM (#23927358)
FYI for anyone else reading: Google maps lets you download maps for offline use.
Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by stoolpigeon on Thursday July 23, 2020 @10:24AM (#23927652)
Getting that to work consistently is a real pain in the ass. I drive around Europe a lot and I'll download maps to save on roaming data and often I've downloaded a place and my phone still wont be able to generate directions for me. I don't know if I miss little spots that are needed to connect my end points or if it is just broken. It's been this way for quite a while. I've downloaded routes themselves and had that fail as well.
Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by exabrial on Thursday July 23, 2020 @11:09AM (#23928133)
It has a transactional guarantee of "maybe". I would _definitely_ not rely on this functionality for anything other than non-critical or time sensitive casual navigation on roadways.

When I'm out in the bush, I need my device to be up and working locally. It seems that stuff designed in SV just assumes the lifestyle of 100% connectivity is universal.

Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by toomuchtodo on Thursday July 23, 2020 @12:49PM (#23929299)
Do you have any recommendations for digital mapping solutions that “just work” without connectivity?
Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by abkfenris on Thursday July 23, 2020 @04:03PM (#23931655)
Gaia GPS is fantastic. You can mix and match layers, and specify what bounds you want to download for a trip.

Right now I've got 3 GB stored locally, some of that for the usual locations that I wander out of connectivity, and some for a trip next week.

Garmin (formerly Delorme) Earthmate despite their other issues is great for state or province wide vector maps. Not as great for fine navigation and tracking (as it's designed to be paired with and control an InReach), but good for point of interest exploration.

Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by macintux on Thursday July 23, 2020 @07:32PM (#23933986)
I love Gaia on my iPhone and iPad, but I’ve had real problems with map layers not displaying lately. MapBox Streets and Gaia Streets are both hosed and I can’t figure out why.
Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by brigandish on Thursday July 23, 2020 @10:51PM (#23935205)
Forgive the potential facetiousness of my reply because I know it's not exactly what you're asking for, but if you know where you'll be then save the images somehow. Knowing how flakey Apple Maps is without connectivity, if it's important, then I'll take screenshots of the route before I leave, for the same reason I'll print out important slides of a presentation because even a lo-fi plan B is better than total failure.

Are online maps really that much better than a paper map? The only real improvement is the same as that of mp3 over carrying a walkman and bunch of tapes. There's not much beyond that, for all the hype.

Like so many things (Amp/SPA websites; social media; 24 hour rolling news…) they seem to me to not really improvements over what we had, because someone somewhere tried to lock the customer in. Maybe that's just misanthropic luddite me.

Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by bloodorange on Thursday July 23, 2020 @09:24PM (#23934697)
Typical satnav devices work fine without internet connectivity. Of course, such a device won't work if it can't connect to satellites providing positioning data but I think that was not what you had in mind when you said "connectivity".
Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by pmontra on Friday July 24, 2020 @04:32PM (#23944110)
OSMAnd.

https://osmand.net/

I installed it on my old phone (and the new one and my tablet .) I placed it on a handlebar mount and I'm mapping and navigating my vacation.

Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by exabrial on Thursday July 23, 2020 @01:25PM (#23929770)
Trailforks is power hungry but is great if you're on-trail. If you're off trail, hilariously Garmin Explore I think is pretty good, you can download Topo and USGS maps, but logging in isn't working right now :) so look elsewhere
Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by petre on Friday July 24, 2020 @12:39AM (#23935789)
Here Maps for vehicle nav. If you download the maps of course. OSMAnd and Windy Maps w/ on device maps for outdoor. Here is also used on Audi's satnav I think. The voice is the same and the missing roads are the same.
Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by aeries on Thursday July 23, 2020 @03:23PM (#23931230)
maps.me has saved me many times in places with zero connectivity. I can also import my planned adventures as kml files to be sure I'm on track.
Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by AWildC182 on Thursday July 23, 2020 @06:39PM (#23933466)
Osmand has full offline navigational functionality for free and uses as well as contributes to the open street maps data set instead of a proprietary one. I've used it to save my bacon a few times when I tried to start navigation well away from cell coverage.
Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by makomk on Thursday July 23, 2020 @10:39AM (#23927812)
Last time I tried, Google maps wouldn't do any kind of offline routing for walking or cycling, amongst other annoying limitations.
Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by jschwartzi on Thursday July 23, 2020 @04:42PM (#23932024)
That's because Google requires their servers to offload their patented Most Dangerous Path algorithm for cycling directions.
Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by petre on Friday July 24, 2020 @01:40AM (#23936129)
The Graphhopper routing service is great for cycling. It even has different bike profiles, walking and hiking. The bike profile is essentially a touring bike and the algo is tuned to avoid slopes. Road bike sticks to the road, MTB uses backroads and footpaths. Hiking prefers more scenic route even if they're longer.
Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by HumblyTossed on Thursday July 23, 2020 @10:55AM (#23927975)
Here we go (silly name) allows for offline maps as well and it's pretty good software.
Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by Causality1 on Thursday July 23, 2020 @10:40AM (#23927824)
There are also quite a few offline navigation and hiking/adventure apps. Standalone GPS devices can be rugged but that's about their only advantage. It's silly to complain about smartphones not working off the grid when all you have to do to fix that is tap a button before you leave home.
Re:Garmin services and production go down after ransomware a... by iamacyborg on Thursday July 23, 2020 @01:26PM (#23929777)
And given that GPS services are free, it's fantastic when you need to find your way around a town in a foreign city. I was using it to find my way around the medina in Marrakech last year.