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Re:Understand seed round dynamics in Silicon Valley by simonebrunozzi on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @11:52PM (#23924013)
The author is both a former entrepreneur (Sysdig) and a current investor, but I agree with you that the viewpoint is more investor-centric.

Your suggestions are interesting, but I'd rather focus on the real customer, and have the numbers speak for themselves, rather than simply perfecting the art of raising money.

I've founded startups in the past, raised money, and also invested both as angel investor and as a founding member of a micro-VC fund (and currently operating partner at a large VC fund, but not too relevant here).

In my personal experience, building a strong company most often trumps a founder's ability to play smoke and mirrors in front of an investor.

Re:Understand seed round dynamics in Silicon Valley by glenngillen on Thursday July 23, 2020 @06:51AM (#23925988)
Here to second this. I’m by no means a heavily experienced VC but I’ve made about a dozen seed stage investments. And would have been pitched to hundreds of times.

The founders that over index on what they think an investor wants to hear almost without lose me within the first minute. I’m not buying your 5yr projections. It’s not believable that you’re literally the only other company in the top corner of a competitive quadrant. Try and pitch me about the tax efficiency of my potential investment and we’re done. Sometimes a founder forces a deep dive and what typically surfaces is they have a pretty superficial understanding on most of this stuff and we end up a multitude of holes or inconsistencies in what got pitched. It’s not their fault, they’ve only learnt enough of this stuff for the sake of fundraising because that’s what someone somewhere told them they had to do. A meeting that ends with the overwhelming sense you didn’t know your stuff isn’t going to end with an investment.

Contrast that to the founders I’ve invested in. One I contacted originally because I was building a competitive product. A few referrals from people I know with “they could use a little help, would you mind having a chat and giving them some advice?”. More than one of those I thought was not a particularly viable idea and planned to help the founder map a path to working that out themselves as quickly as possible. Instead I walked away from all of those conversations feeling like a knee nothing. That I’d just been gifted a brain dump from one of the most insightful people I’d come across. And that they’d introduced me to a whole exciting new area of potential I’d been completely oblivious to only an hour earlier.

I definitely want to hear a different story to what you’d represent to a customer. I think people would be more successful if they gave me the version they’d give their first dozen employees and not the one they think investors want to hear.

Re:Understand seed round dynamics in Silicon Valley by idlewords on Thursday July 23, 2020 @01:33AM (#23924441)
Most funded startups don't end in a strong company, but all (by definition) are successful at persuading someone to write a check. The rational thing to do if you want the investment is to optimize for the storytelling, which is a factor of 10x or more more effective than the notional business.
Re:Understand seed round dynamics in Silicon Valley by barry-cotter on Thursday July 23, 2020 @05:44AM (#23925670)
This is only true of getting the investment is your terminal goal. If it’s just a proximate goal on the way to actually building a successful company, getting stinking rich or many other things that’s not true. If the investment is an end you’re right. If it’s a means to an end...
Re:Understand seed round dynamics in Silicon Valley by bergstromm466 on Thursday July 23, 2020 @04:41AM (#23925393)
> optimize for the storytelling

What has been your experience using this strategy? Is there anything in particular that makes you say that?

Re:Understand seed round dynamics in Silicon Valley by starfallg on Thursday July 23, 2020 @04:51AM (#23925455)
>In my personal experience, building a strong company most often trumps a founder's ability to play smoke and mirrors in front of an investor.

Building a strong company also requires a different set of skills and much more work. Not everybody has those skills, or would want to develop them if their goals can be achieved by hacking the system.

Looking at cases like Theranos and WeWork, there's definitely something wrong with the game itself. The fake it-till-you-make-it culture is a little too prevalent to dismiss.