Re:Top Scientists Just Ruled Out Best-Case Global Warming Sc...
by solstice on Thursday July 23, 2020 @04:11AM
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True but from what I understand of the matter (which isn't that much tbf), +2.3C is predicted to be already pretty fucking horrible, to say nothing of +3C...
Re:Top Scientists Just Ruled Out Best-Case Global Warming Sc...
by makomk on Thursday July 23, 2020 @05:37AM
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Especially given that the media has been pushing a narrative that the worst-case scenarioes are our actual reality (or even worse-than-worst-case ones), so ruling them out is in fact incredibly significant - it's effectively ruling out what readers of articles like this one are likely to expect to actually happen. (To be fair, it looks like Bloomberg are slightly better than some of the rest of the press in that they seem to have rejected stuff like RCP8.5 that has already been falsified by what's actually happened, rather than pretending it matches reality.)
Re:Top Scientists Just Ruled Out Best-Case Global Warming Sc...
by jbdigriz on Thursday July 23, 2020 @09:23AM
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Saying this is asserting the "by any means necessary" doctrine whereby manipulation and misrepresentation are the first spots on the decent into outright propaganda and tyranny.
Why not disconnect your internet abs unplug from everything yourself if genuinely so concerned? At least prove your principled instead of just power hungry for control
Re:Top Scientists Just Ruled Out Best-Case Global Warming Sc...
by credit_guy on Thursday July 23, 2020 @09:06AM
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Which politics neglected the issue? On an almost daily basis I hear a new statement like "UK will ban all petrol and diesel cars by 2035" [1].
Sure, Trump withdrew the US from the Paris agreement, but individual states, like California, New York or Massachusetts still have a very strong environmental agenda. For example "California bans government purchase of gas vehicles" [2].
The paper itself:
An assessment of Earth's climate sensitivity using multiple lines of evidence, Sherwood et al., Reviews of Geophysics, 2020, doi: 10.1029/2019RG000678
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/2019...
preprint manuscript: https://climateextremes.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/WC...
another mainstream article on the subject https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/07/200722112648.h... > Four years of research confidently narrows range of 1.5°C-4.5°C down to 2.3°C-3.9°C
Constantly banging the drum of the worst case scenario has lead to doom fatigue. That is the only explanation for the current apathy.
No, it's lying by omission.
Fear sells better.
A few months later: "Ah, we have an update, you have 4-8 years."
Yay?
Why not disconnect your internet abs unplug from everything yourself if genuinely so concerned? At least prove your principled instead of just power hungry for control
Sure, Trump withdrew the US from the Paris agreement, but individual states, like California, New York or Massachusetts still have a very strong environmental agenda. For example "California bans government purchase of gas vehicles" [2].
[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51366123
[2] https://www.truckinginfo.com/344909/california-bans-governme...