Re:Apple Security Research Device Program
by tptacek on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @05:35PM
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"Look we're doing something"? Apple has a well-regarded security team that is among the largest in the industry. The locked platform is part of the premise of their security model. You can disagree with that; many smart people do. But you can't pretend that anything other than unlocking the platform constitutes a half-measure.
Re:Apple Security Research Device Program
by saagarjha on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @05:43PM
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Apple's security model is not the only one that exists, and its model has the additional benefit of giving them the ability to control software distribution for the platform.
Re:Apple Security Research Device Program
by ganoushoreilly on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @05:48PM
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I'm actually not in disagreement of either points. I think they just need to stop with the whole see people can do stuff. Own it, I like the locked environment and security.
That said, on the back end outside of devices, they don't implement the same precautions. IE encrypting iCloud data / backups where they have limited access. I would like consistency is all.
One way or the other.
Re:Apple Security Research Device Program
by Despegar on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @06:27PM
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In what way do they not "own it"? They've been owning the fact that it's a closed system for 40 years, when tech nerds complained about their products being "appliances".
Re:Apple Security Research Device Program
by ganoushoreilly on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @06:39PM
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I'm more on the side of their argument that they have to lock the phone down without their own ability to access the data (which I agree with), but falling back on encrypting the backend the same way (buckling to Federal pressure).
I would love it to be encrypted through out. Even it if means, that if I lose access I may not be able to get it back. It's a tradeoff. The marketing position of being secure is factually true for the phone, but they imply the data is when in fact it really isn't.
I tend to like Apple in general, I think they do a lot of things right, but I feel there are a few things they do that are clearly about money and not the purported reasons. I guess no company is impervious to that.