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Re:I Don't Want to Be a Founder by pier25 on Monday July 20, 2020 @12:00PM (#23899120)
For me the main reason to try it is the frustration of having been working for 20 years as a freelancer or as en employee.

In both cases I've been investing my time and blood in exchange for money. Then the money runs out and you start all over again, and again. I want to invest my time into something which hopefully can grow so that I can keep investing more of my time instead of just giving it away. I want to plant a forest that will produce on its own instead of having to plant and harvest again on each season.

Freedom is another important aspect. I've been frustrated during my professional career with clients and bosses making the wrong decisions again and again and living with the consequences of those decisions.

I might totally fail while building what I'm building (see my profile) but that's better than waking up one day and realizing I've wasted my life. Thankfully I'm in a position where I can invest a couple of years of my life without earning money and I don't have people depending on me.

Re:I Don't Want to Be a Founder by jmchuster on Monday July 20, 2020 @01:24PM (#23899966)
i think if those are your motivations, then you definitely don't want to start a startup. You want to start a small business where you're the boss and maybe you have one or two assistants. Or maybe you just want to start a side project. As a founder, i think you very quickly lose your sense of freedom and control.
Re:I Don't Want to Be a Founder by jennasys on Monday July 20, 2020 @02:02PM (#23900299)
As a 20 year freelancer myself, a side project is a good way to go. But if that takes off and starts requiring more structure, more resources, and eventually overtakes the day job, it essentially becomes a startup.
Re:I Don't Want to Be a Founder by jmchuster on Monday July 20, 2020 @02:54PM (#23900759)
Sorry, i meant "startup" in terms of "company predicated on exponential growth". If you have a small business where you're the boss, you just grow it slowly how you you want. But as a startup founder, your surrounding circumstances essentially are dictating what you have to do in order to get that exponential growth. Your customers are your boss, your board is your boss, the market is your boss.
Re:I Don't Want to Be a Founder by pier25 on Monday July 20, 2020 @04:49PM (#23901747)
> You want to start a small business

Maybe something got lost in translation (I'm not a native speaker) but a startup cannot be small?

Re:I Don't Want to Be a Founder by spiffytech on Monday July 20, 2020 @08:52PM (#23903400)
"Startup" means many things to many people, but most people most of the time use it to mean something close to a rapid-growth business (millions in revenue in < 3yr from start, growth measured in integer multiples per year from there), commonly targeting revenues such that (anecdotally) maxing out in the low $millions means the startup will likely fail for financial reasons. Creating a business that can do this frequently means taking outside investment from speculative investors (VC, angel) in numbers ranging from the low six figures for young, unproven startups, to tens of millions of dollars for established startups with obvious room to grow. You spend that money doubling your headcount every year and possibly doing things like subsidizing freemium users.

Crucially, the startup might not be like a business in some important regards. It's common to operate a startup at a significant financial loss, with the goal of either being bought out or growing fast enough to "make it up in volume" before the VC money runs out.

(sidenote: the word "startup" is also coming to sometimes be used to mean a self-funded tech-oriented business, without VC backing, with a slower expected growth rate but an expectation of maxing out at significant revenues).

All of this is in contrast to "small businesses", which have relatively modest growth prospects (sub-$1m is very common), frequently keep a headcount low enough to gather all employees in a small room, and are designed with prompt profitability in mind from the start, due to taking little/no outside investment.

Startups, both by their mode of operation and their level of ambition, rapidly grow to hundreds or thousands of employees, and demand immense revenue/funding to cover that. Small businesses are designed to get off the ground efficiently and more or less coast, sometimes with limited growth over time, sometimes keeping a steadystate.

Re:I Don't Want to Be a Founder by pier25 on Monday July 20, 2020 @09:34PM (#23903591)
Interesting. I'm from Europe and here "startup" usually means a new tech company. At least that's how I've used it and how I've heard people use it. Also in Mexico where I'm currently residing.

Anyway, about the comment I should start a small business instead of a startup, yeah I don't plan to grow to millions of users and having hundreds of employees.