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Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by scrollaway on Monday July 20, 2020 @11:11AM (#23898575)
This is a really cool video and I don't mean to detract from it, but seeing how its 10 minutes and 8 seconds long annoyed me so much (and not for the reason you think).

"10 minutes" is an ad milestone for videos on youtube. I systematically click away and hide videos that are between 10:00 and 10:20 minutes long: They'll almost certainly have been artificially slowed down to match the ad requirements.

It's infuriating, and once you know about it, you see it everywhere. Anyway, in this instance it matters a lot less as the audio is completely unimportant…

Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by alex_free on Monday July 20, 2020 @11:13AM (#23898592)
YouTube just changed the ad milestone to 8 minutes, and this was posted after this change.
Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by kube-system on Monday July 20, 2020 @11:44AM (#23898931)
I am guessing many uploaders just don't realize that yet.
Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by Fiveplus on Monday July 20, 2020 @11:39AM (#23898873)
On the same topic, who determines the '10 minute' and '8 minute' time scale perfect for engagement and how did they end up with these numbers?
Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by scrollaway on Monday July 20, 2020 @11:43AM (#23898926)
It's the minimum length of time a video must be in order to enable mid-roll ads.

The 10 minutes one seems pretty arbitrary, but to arrive at 8 mins I suspect that Google studies how much time there needs to be so that mid-roll ads don't negatively affect engagement.

(Shout-out to all the wonderful, brilliant engineers working on figuring out how to minimize the user's reaction to cramming AS MANY ADS as possible down their brain)

Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by scrollaway on Monday July 20, 2020 @11:20AM (#23898656)
extremely recently, like a week ago or so, and this video was from 3 days ago; for the next few weeks I'm still going to look at the 10 min timestamp as more telling than an 8 min one (though I'm sure youtubers will "migrate").

Looking at the channel, 3 of its videos are between 10:04 and 10:09 long. Of course, that's nothing compared to a lot of other long-form youtubers I've seen with like 80% of their videos around that timestamp.

Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by MVorlm on Monday July 20, 2020 @11:43AM (#23898921)
10 minutes is the the milestone for "mid-roll" ads. As far as I can tell, this video has no ads in the middle.
Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by coding123 on Monday July 20, 2020 @11:48AM (#23898979)
I saw about 4 full-replacement of video ads. It might be because I selected 4K video. I wonder if they push more ads when you select a higher quality.
Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by dylan604 on Monday July 20, 2020 @01:03PM (#23899758)
"As far as I can tell" by your comment, you did not watch the video. I didn't even finish half the video, and I stopped it just before the 2nd ad break started.
Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by btkramer9 on Monday July 20, 2020 @02:50PM (#23900730)
maybe they have an ad blocker? I too watched the entire video and didn't see a single ad. Beginning, middle or end. I'm using adblock plus
Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by vmception on Monday July 20, 2020 @11:40AM (#23898886)
don't hate the player hate the game
Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by tiborsaas on Monday July 20, 2020 @12:05PM (#23899166)
So they put in effort to make this, you consume it for free and then you complain that they can monetize it?

OK.

Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by playpause on Monday July 20, 2020 @12:10PM (#23899217)
The comment was about when videos are artificially slowed down, not about monetisation per se.
Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by tiborsaas on Monday July 20, 2020 @02:23PM (#23900468)
But they make it slow to monetize it.

I got the point, but it's not really fair towards content creators.

Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by mitchdoogle on Monday July 20, 2020 @12:13PM (#23899239)
Yes, people should be able to complain about things that are annoying and damage their experience. In this case, 10 minutes is an arbitrary time and the OP is arguing that this arbitrary number for monetization results in poorer quality videos.
Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by tiborsaas on Monday July 20, 2020 @02:24PM (#23900478)
Just in this case I'd complain that it's not 30 minute Mars imagery I 4k :)
Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by scrollaway on Monday July 20, 2020 @12:45PM (#23899544)
If you read closely or at all, you'll note that your comment is incorrect.
Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by MacSystem on Monday July 20, 2020 @11:56AM (#23899070)
Why don't you use Brave browser to get away with those ad?
Re:Mars images rendered in 4K [video] by scrollaway on Monday July 20, 2020 @01:34PM (#23900055)
Why don't you use Brave browser?