India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and nowhere

Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by oblio on Friday July 17, 2020 @03:53AM (#23868232)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_England

England.

Population in 1800: 7.7 million.

Population in 1900: 30 million.

So not quite 5x, but almost 4x, not that far off.

I'm pretty sure there are many other examples of nations undergoing a huge population boom as they industrialize.

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Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by ido on Friday July 17, 2020 @04:08AM (#23868312)

Mandatory Palestine (roughly Israel + Palestinian Territories today) had a population of ~750k in 1920 [0]. The population of Israel today is ~9m [1] and of the Palestinian territories another ~5m [2].

It would have probably still been a massive increase even without the migration of Jews into what is now Israel, as there are ~13m [3] Palestinians world-wide today and most of them live in the middle east (PT, Israel & refugees in neighboring countries). You can see similar albeit less extreme growth in neighboring countries (e.g. Egypt went from ~13m to ~100m in the same period).

Like Oblio I would guess this is common for countries who were unindustrialized in 1920 as they have seen massive reduction in child mortality & massive increase in food supplies due to advances in modern medicine & agriculture in the last 100 years.

EDIT: I tried to phrase this comment with good intentions as neutrally as possible, but seeing as how this is a sensitive topic please let me know if I got something wrong.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine#Demographi...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_territories

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians

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Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by eveningcoffee on Friday July 17, 2020 @08:54AM (#23869957)

I found a very interesting graph related to the population growth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Soviet_Uni...

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Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by krakatau1 on Friday July 17, 2020 @07:08AM (#23869308)

Maybe it was 5x. In that period millions of English went to colonies.

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Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by oblio on Friday July 17, 2020 @10:02AM (#23870547)

That's a valid point. What many people don't know about the French-Indian War, for example, is that the British colonists numbered in the high hundreds of thousands (if not a million) and the French colonists were about 50.000. That's why Quebec was doomed regardless of any short term military results.

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Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by krakatau1 on Monday July 20, 2020 @06:02AM (#23896337)

Yes, English had crazy fertility rate. At the begining of the Hundred Years’ War France had population of 17 million and Britain(excluding Ireland) had 4 million. By the time of Napoleonic wars Britain(with Ireland) had 17 million people compared with 30 million in France. English also had much higher emigration rate to colonies.

When the First World War started UK had a larger population than France.

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Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by eveningcoffee on Friday July 17, 2020 @08:13AM (#23869669)

Thanks for this observation. It explains how they had so much excess man power to run their empire.

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