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Re:Federal Law Enforcement Use Unmarked Vehicles to Grab Pro... by SpicyLemonZest on Friday July 17, 2020 @02:33AM (#23867764)
I'm not saying the entire city is up in flames, but I've seen pretty scary pictures every night I checked of the area these two were protesting in. If a crowd of people dressed in all black is tossing stuff at police officers, I'd call that a riot.

I'm just not tremendously sympathetic to people who contribute to such an atmosphere of lawlessness and then report that their arrest wasn't entirely by the book.

Re:Federal Law Enforcement Use Unmarked Vehicles to Grab Pro... by fzeroracer on Friday July 17, 2020 @02:42AM (#23867811)
What the fuck? The point is that the police officers and the feds are supposed to do things by the book. They're the law. Their job is to uphold the law, and that includes how they police things. Regardless of who is contributing to an 'atmosphere of lawlessness', that does not give them carte blanche to violate the rights of citizens. Especially not when it comes to pulling people off the streets into unmarked cars and then driving away.

Why are you so dead set on downplaying this incident? How do you even know the people in the video are actually feds if they're not announcing who they are and going through proper procedures to arrest someone? What's stopping some jackass in cosplay from pulling the same stunt?

Re:Federal Law Enforcement Use Unmarked Vehicles to Grab Pro... by JoeSmithson on Friday July 17, 2020 @02:56AM (#23867893)
> "What's stopping some jackass in cosplay from pulling the same stunt?"

The ultimate answer to this is; potentially being prosecuted for kidnap and impersonating police.

Most police powers boil down to exclusive legal defences that non-police can't use.

Re:Federal Law Enforcement Use Unmarked Vehicles to Grab Pro... by jacobush on Friday July 17, 2020 @09:10AM (#23870070)
So, if you are right wing bent on kidnapping, all you have to do is join the police. Seems to be working pretty well.
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Re:Federal Law Enforcement Use Unmarked Vehicles to Grab Pro... by dang on Friday July 17, 2020 @01:17PM (#23872914)
Your account has unfortunately been breaking the site guidelines a ton lately. That's not ok. Would you please fix it? Posting in the flamewar style is not cool, regardless of wrong someone else is. Personal attacks are not cool. Religious flamewar is right out.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Federal Law Enforcement Use Unmarked Vehicles to Grab Pro... by pstuart on Friday July 17, 2020 @01:30PM (#23873106)
Sorry. How can I delete the comment in question? It's aged out for edit.
Re:Federal Law Enforcement Use Unmarked Vehicles to Grab Pro... by dang on Friday July 17, 2020 @02:14PM (#23873631)
I've deleted it for you. Please don't miss that the issue wasn't just that one comment, though. It's the pattern with your account, unfortunately.

I realize that as social and political conditions become more polarized, it gets harder to practice the intended spirit of the site, but if HN is to survive, we all have to pitch in. That's one reason the guidelines say "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." "More divisive" is the trend of the world these days, and there's no way HN can expect to be immune from that.

Re:Federal Law Enforcement Use Unmarked Vehicles to Grab Pro... by pstuart on Saturday July 18, 2020 @03:57PM (#23884332)
I acknowledge my mistake, likewise your graciousness in dealing with me.

Being that the parent comment is dead I'd assume that this comment won't be publicly visible but I'd like to give a deeper commentary that could be misconstrued by some here, as well take some thought to put together so I'll send that to your HN email.

Regardless of the above, I'm chagrinned and remorseful to generate non-positive dialog here.