Re:When your coworker does great work, tell their manager
by jedberg on Thursday July 16, 2020 @08:21PM
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That's my point. Those things still happen, even without a formal process. Most likely if you're in that meeting, you've already had multiple meetings with HR and your manager about your performance.
If HR is just hearing about it for the first time in the meeting, that is when they would be following up, because it means the manager made a quick rash decision.
Re:When your coworker does great work, tell their manager
by iainmerrick on Thursday July 16, 2020 @08:24PM
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Would they potentially overturn the dismissal in that case?
Re:When your coworker does great work, tell their manager
by jedberg on Thursday July 16, 2020 @08:27PM
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I don't think so. The last thing you want is to have someone working for a manager who tried to fire them. I don't recall any case where a dismissal was overturned.
Keep in mind, the HR person will still have at least a few hours warning, since they are invited to the meeting ahead of time and will know what the meeting is about, because they have to prep the paperwork. So if they disagree, they are most likely to ask the manager to discuss it first.
At a previous employer, a manager would need to formally put you on a performance improvement plan to give you a chance to improve, to discuss about what's going on (maybe you need a leave of absence for family; or maybe training). HR should be surprised that the exit interview is the first time they're talking to the person.