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Re:Riot is now Element by badrabbit on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @06:35AM (#23843381)
Hey, I remember seeing your reply, I didn't want to provide contact info on a public forum, and I have developed a severe allergy to email.

I am very intetested in paying for the product you linked, so long as I don't need email. I will support your product, even with imperfections so long as you remain attentive to your user's needs (hopefully being a paid product helps in that area)

And for anyone else reading, I became an instant fan of matrix/riot/element because the only thing I needed to sign up to the matrix.org home server was username,password and pass a captcha! No email! Same with HN(minus captcha). If this wasn't but a petty annoyance compared to all the real problems of the world, I would be protesting and holding flag burnings with RFC2822 on the flag! (We all have pet peeves :) )

Re:Riot is now Element by rglullis on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @06:50AM (#23843476)
No, you don't need email to signup or register. Just email/password.

You can invite other people to join the site, and yes, that is basically asking people to put an email address to notify your friends. I might implement later a referral/voucher system to make it easy to invite someone to join your paid contract without having to provide an email, but this is somewhat of a lower priority during the soft launch. Documentation and easier onboarding are definitely bigger tickets on my list.

Re:Riot is now Element by rglullis on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @09:03AM (#23844569)
Just realized that I meant you need only username/password. To reiterate, email is not needed at all.
Re:Riot is now Element by LunaSea on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @06:43AM (#23843438)
In places like the European Union, it is illegal for example to provide subscription payments without notifying customers before payment renewal (which requires an email address).
Re:Riot is now Element by badrabbit on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @07:09AM (#23843612)
You can notify without email though. If the patform itself is communication related they can send you in-app message.
Re:Riot is now Element by rglullis on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @06:53AM (#23843507)
Given that is a very complicated ordeal to do subscription payments with crypto (impossible with Bitcoin, requires transaction with custom contracts if you want to do with Ethereum), my initial implementation uses a basic pay-as-you-go account system. If you "subscribe" to my service, you need to ensure that you keep the balance positive otherwise your account gets disconnected on a failed charge.
Re:Riot is now Element by literallycancer on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @08:23AM (#23844155)
You could show LN invoice (QR code) right in the app when that happens.
Re:Riot is now Element by rglullis on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @08:45AM (#23844363)
That is an interesting idea, but (1) assumes the user added my support account as a contact and (2) might create a phishing vector.
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Re:Riot is now Element by rglullis on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @07:14AM (#23843639)
I didn't see it as goal-post move, rather a reaffirmation of a previous conversation we had. He did say before that he does not want to provide email to sign up and that he wants to pay with crypto. Both these things were already on my roadmap.
Re:Riot is now Element by staz on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @07:24AM (#23843701)
If it was already discussed I guess that's fine then my bad.

edit: btw in the footer of your site, the links under service s are broken

Re:Riot is now Element by rglullis on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @07:34AM (#23843765)
Yeah, thanks for checking it out.

Documentation still coming up, and the links will be correct as soon as I actually publish the pages from the CMS.