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Re:Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagio... by titzer on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @08:42PM (#23839915)
> as in, lockdowns won't stop the virus

I wish we could be done with this absolutely false misinformation. Case in point, New Zealand is COVID free.

Re:Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagio... by ZephyrBluu on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @08:51PM (#23839986)
Not completely, we still have a few active cases as far as I'm aware.

We also basically shut down our borders, which I don't think is that feasible for a lot of other countries.

Re:Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagio... by titzer on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @09:35PM (#23840237)
There have been weeks-long stretches within the past month where New Zealand has had no active cases.

Currently, there are 2, apparently new, according to this:

https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/...

This is about as close to "eliminated" as you can get; the new cases are all from incoming international travel.

This directly refutes the OP's statement that lockdowns "won't stop the virus."

Re:Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagio... by zaroth on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @10:23PM (#23840507)
Lucky for them to be a tiny island nation with totally controlled borders. Long Island alone is almost twice as big.

Early on when New York was surging and Trump suggested limiting inter-state travel Cuomo suggested that would be akin to a federal declaration of war. [1]

It can be true that strategies that might work for New Zealand could never possibly work for the continental US.

Hawaii has a similar situation, got new case count down to zero for a few days, but are dealing with a few cases per day recently.

[1] - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/28/donald-trump...

Re:Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagio... by vmh1928 on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @10:32PM (#23840556)
The good thing about the scientific method is you can decide what you are doing isn't working and try something else.
Re:Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagio... by KineticLensman on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @06:03AM (#23843174)
> Case in point, New Zealand is COVID free

Unlike many countries, they can easily close their borders, many people live in isolated communities and they aren't a major transport hub.

Re:Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagio... by iateanapple on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @02:14AM (#23841911)
> Case in point, New Zealand is COVID free.

Unlike NZ, the US can’t control its borders - as decades of uncontrolled illegal immigration has shown us.