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Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @01:23PM (#23834855)
> Apparently, the dictionaries are in conspiracy with the general public, as they also define autopilot as "a device that keeps aircraft, spacecraft, and ships moving in a particular direction without human involvement".

This is describing cruise control.

Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by bumby on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @01:53PM (#23835257)
The original cruise control developed in the 1950s by Chrysler was coincidentally termed “autopilot” by marketers

“Meanwhile, in 1958, Chrysler’s new Auto-Pilot was of course just a cruise control.”

https://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/history/automotive-hist...

Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by dx87 on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @01:31PM (#23834970)
Cruise control just maintains speed, not direction. It'll happily plow you into an obstacle without human intervention.
Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @02:09PM (#23835487)
Plowing you into an obstacle is what you get when you maintain your existing course and speed without regard for what's in front of you. "Forward" is a direction.

And whether you call it cruise control or not, the definition still matches a thing the car actually does. It has lane keep assist too.

Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by seppel on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @02:47PM (#23836018)
The thing is: Cruise control maintains the speed without human supervision. Lane keep assist does not keep in a lane without human supervision (hence it is only assist).
Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by AnthonyMouse on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @01:33PM (#23848579)
> The thing is: Cruise control maintains the speed without human supervision.

At which point you would immediately veer off the highway and smash into an overpass, so no it doesn't.

It maintains speed without human involvement, which is the same thing lane keep assist does. It steers the car to keep it in the lane. Presumably even if the lane goes out to a pier and dumps the car in the sea.

Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by seppel on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @08:25PM (#23854248)
Cruise control maintains the speed as long as it is physically possible. You don't need to supervise that it maintains the speed, it is able to do it on its own. It is (usually) even better than a human in maintaining the speed. Of course you still need to control the steering wheel or brake for obstacles -- but that's nothing cruise control promises to control.

On the other hand, lane assist is good, but it is not good enough to keep the lane without supervision. It can get confused by strange markings, obstacles, construction work, weather etc. It might fail to keep the car in its lane, although it is easily possible for a human.

Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by retrac on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @01:31PM (#23834977)
No, that just keeps the car moving. Not in any particular direction.