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Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by ardit33 on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @12:45PM (#23834286)
While he has achieved a lot, His claims sometimes are downright bizarre... I don't know if it is just intentional deception, drugs, or some kind of bi-polar mania, or a combination of all the above.

We should be able to make our Teslas to be fully automated robo-taxis by now... and earn cash on the side....

https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-robo-taxis-elon-musk-p...

I wouldn't trust my family's life, on his (often) delusional claims.

Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by ianmobbs on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @12:55PM (#23834441)
Most of the achievements people ascribe to him aren't even his. Musk bought the company then gave himself the title of 'founder'. He's a businessman, not a scientist
Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by drcross on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @02:02PM (#23835375)
>He's a businessman, not a scientist

How can you even say that? I've heard more scientific discussions out of him compared to all the other CEO's I've ever heard speak combined. Musk has a head for physics and numbers and can easily come up with calculations for classical mechanics, material technology, information theory off the top of your head. For you to say the contrary is doublespeak.

Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by kmonsen on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @03:14PM (#23836387)
The poster you commented said a true fact (Elon bought a company and calls himself founder). There is no facts across your rambling response, and you say others do doublespeak?
Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by drcross on Thursday July 16, 2020 @06:33PM (#23864614)
It seems I have to repeat myself here.

>He's a businessman, not a scientist

This is the point that my comment refuted.

Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by ianmobbs on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @03:14PM (#23836390)
Because there's a difference between having "a head for physics and numbers" and "working with physics and numbers for your career". Fundamentally, he is a CEO, who's job is not to work on any of the underlying technology. His job grow the company.
Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by dahfizz on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @02:34PM (#23835869)
That's a bit misleading. Musk was a part of Tesla from day 1 and provided most of the funding. He served as Chairman since 2004.

When he took over in 2008, Tesla had just started producing the first roadster, which was really just a conversion kit for a lotus. After musk became CEO, Tesla became the world's most valuable car company...

Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by ianmobbs on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @03:16PM (#23836426)
There is a difference between "funding a Roadster" and "designing and fully understanding the physics and mechanics of the Roadster".
Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by dahfizz on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @03:25PM (#23836537)
> designing and fully understanding the physics and mechanics of the Roadster.

I've never seen anyone claim Musk did that. What are you on about?

Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by catalogia on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @04:33PM (#23837463)
From the context of your comment, it seemed as though you meant to support the notion that Elon Musk was working as a scientist, not a businessman.
Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by dahfizz on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @10:04PM (#23840409)
That's fair. I should have quoted the first two sentences of my parent explicitly:

> Most of the achievements people ascribe to him aren't even his. Musk bought the company then gave himself the title of 'founder

Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by singlow on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @01:56PM (#23835292)
What did the company have when he bought it apart from a name?
Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by ianmobbs on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @03:16PM (#23836410)
They already had the Roadster, Musk just funded it.
Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by singlow on Thursday July 16, 2020 @02:26PM (#23862093)
In what way did they "have the Roadster" in February 2004, 6 months after the first two founders started the company and 9 months before it was named Tesla? At the point that Musk joined they were still working with a TZero converted to a lithium battery pack.