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Re:Linux 5.8 Formally Adds the Inclusive Terminology Guidelines by dilap on Saturday July 11, 2020 @01:40PM (#23804013)
It's an important question, though. The belief underlying lots of policymaking right now is that any inequality of outcome must be due to bias. If that's actually untrue, then we're going to end up trying to eradicate something that doesn't exist, with likely negative consequences.

I would argue that the increasing trend to eliminate objective admittance criteria to schools are an example of this. (I think standardized testing is a huge boon to socio-economically disadvantaged kids; it certainly was for me.)

Re:Linux 5.8 Formally Adds the Inclusive Terminology Guidelines by mercer on Saturday July 11, 2020 @01:53PM (#23804138)
Oof, well, I don't entirely disagree with that.

I will say as a general statement that I do think there are systemic biases against various minorities (or women in some cases, who aren't really minorities in the counting sense at least), and that some 'solutions' definitely don't help.

But my main point was that elevating this complex problem, which, again, is well worth having nuances discussions about, and which, to my knowledge is generally very much discussed in 'intellectual circles'. well, it's raised to red-scare totalitarianism-is-right-around-the-corner levels of discussion that I believe cause more harm than good.

For me the debate between Jordan Peterson and Slavoj Szizek confirmed and illustrated this view. if you haven't seen it, watch it and observe the dynamic. The expectations that in particular Peterson had of this 'Marxist' he was finally going to talk to. It's fascinating how often they agree, but also how bad his hyperbole-pretending-to-be-intellectual shit falls apart.

Re:Linux 5.8 Formally Adds the Inclusive Terminology Guidelines by dilap on Sunday July 12, 2020 @03:29PM (#23814060)
Thanks, interesting points. I haven't seen the Szizek/Peterson debate; I'll check it out.