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Re:Healthy Self-Doubt by martindbp on Saturday July 11, 2020 @09:09AM (#23801936)
I actually don't think you need to track expenses much, at least I don't. I did at first at 18 just to make sure I could survive on the $1000 I got in loans and subsidies by the government at the time.

What I recommend is to focus on the big expenses, those are what gets you. That is, housing, transportation, medical (if you live in the US, but there's maybe not much you can do here). Don't go for the most expensive house or apartment that you can afford. If every house is expensive in your area, then settle for an apartment. If you're not willing to, then that's the root of the problem. Go car free if you can. If you can't, get a cheap reliable used car (mine was $4k, worked like a charm). Don't eat and drink out very often. Cut expenses until you're saving 30-50% of your paycheck. If you're in tech, that's very easy, otherwise it's difficult but still doable. Then, if you start earning more money, you can perhaps allow yourself to spend more.

The problem is the expectations that people have of life. Your parents have a big house so you deserve one as well. You're having a baby, so you need a 3 bedroom house and a yard, otherwise that's baby torture! All your friends are buying new cars so naturally you need one too, right?

If you're earning below median income, I'm willing to cut you some slack, but I think for most people on HN, that is not the case.

Re:Healthy Self-Doubt by pnutjam on Saturday July 11, 2020 @11:30AM (#23802876)
I'm on the Midwest, it's not as easy over here as you think.

The salary of your first job can hold down your income for a decade, you might not even realize how underpaid you are.

Re:Healthy Self-Doubt by hnarn on Saturday July 11, 2020 @01:18PM (#23803742)
> The salary of your first job can hold down your income for a decade

Why is that?

Re:Healthy Self-Doubt by pnutjam on Saturday July 11, 2020 @01:39PM (#23804005)
Most employers ask you what your previous salary was, or get it from your past employer. Salary is not protected information. https://www.marketplace.org/2020/07/08/how-salary-history-ba...
Re:Healthy Self-Doubt by packetslave on Saturday July 11, 2020 @03:03PM (#23804789)
except in a little-known place called CALIFORNIA
Re:Healthy Self-Doubt by martindbp on Saturday July 11, 2020 @03:31PM (#23805093)
The median salary in the US midwest is probably equal to my country, and cost of living definitely lower. I don't know your personal situation, but if you're interested and not already familiar with it, you should check out some of the financial independence bloggers such as Mr Money Mustache. There are people with median or below incomes saving 50% or more, although it's of course more difficult than if you have a cushy tech salary.
Re:Healthy Self-Doubt by pnutjam on Saturday July 11, 2020 @03:46PM (#23805260)
I do ok, considering I have 6 kids and just broke 2x the poverty level a couple years ago (based on family of 8).