35% of excess deaths from pandemic not caused by Covid-19

Re:35% of excess deaths from pandemic not caused by Covid-19 by ouid on Friday July 10, 2020 @11:30AM (#23792520)

Since all of these things are comorbidities to covid, it sure seems possible that they just tested negative, despite having the disease. 35% seems to be about the false negative rate.

Maybe the author is forgetting that this is the reason people wanted to track excess deaths in the first place.

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Re:35% of excess deaths from pandemic not caused by Covid-19 by jtbayly on Friday July 10, 2020 @11:48AM (#23792745)

Suicide is not a comorbidity.

Nor can you assume that all of these deaths are simply undetected Covid-19 deaths. We simply don't know what percent of the 35% are caused by Covid-19 and what percent are caused by the lockdown and/or people being too scared to seek treatment. All we know is that there is an additional 35% in excess deaths.

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Re:35% of excess deaths from pandemic not caused by Covid-19 by ouid on Friday July 10, 2020 @11:58AM (#23792857)

well, there are lots of diseases that aren't comorbid with covid, and the author pointed to no spikes in deaths from those diseases.

Suicide is not responsible for any appreciable fraction of that 35%. The article doesn't mention suicide at all, and it would be so extraordinarily anomalous if suicides were suddenly on par with heart disease that that would be the only possible title of this article if they were.

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Re:35% of excess deaths from pandemic not caused by Covid-19 by jtbayly on Friday July 10, 2020 @12:43PM (#23793371)

FTA: "and some may have died by suicide"

Also, I already quoted it above. You said all of the things mentioned were comorbidities. They aren't.

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