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Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by cerberusss on Friday July 10, 2020 @08:16AM (#23790724)
Also, you can't migrate WhatsApp between iPhone and Android. There's a utility called BackupTrans, which follows an extremely convoluted process including a step where they install an old version of WhatsApp. It seemed to work but it trips some wire and WhatsApp put me in an hour-long timeout state, twice. Since I very much depend on WhatsApp, I dare not use it anymore.
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by noja on Friday July 10, 2020 @09:14AM (#23791122)
The platform lock-in because of this is immense.
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by nroets on Saturday July 11, 2020 @01:34AM (#23799804)
I've helped a lot of people to set up new phones and saving WhatsApp chat history is always low on their list of priorities. Keeping their contacts, their photos and all the saved logins for websites and apps are the top 3.

Wiping the WhatsApp chat history on the old phone before giving it to a new owner is also much more important. It often contains highly embarrassing or even incriminating details.

Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by collyw on Saturday July 11, 2020 @01:52AM (#23799892)
wouldn't it be advisable to do a factory reset on an old phone before giving it to someone else? There is a lot more personal info on there than whatsapp
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by bzb3 on Friday July 10, 2020 @10:18AM (#23791686)
Maybe so, but it doesn't benefit either platform.
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by maxbond on Saturday July 11, 2020 @12:25AM (#23799487)
It may not _favor_ either platform but I'd say they both benefit.

In ecology, it's rare to species compete to extinction or exclusion from a niche. It's much more common to observe segmentation. It's a lower energy state for birds to mate at different times, eat leaves from different parts of the same tree, etc., dividing the resources of their niche among themselves, than to force each other out of the niche completely.

The situation is analogous. I'm sure they'd destroy each other if they could, but it's obviously not happening right now. It's much easier to say, you can have your current users, we'll have ours, and we'll focus our energy on capturing emerging markets. Which is why you see them racing to provide free internet to developing countries and such.

Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by qlm on Friday July 10, 2020 @10:35AM (#23791841)
BackupTrans also caused my iPhone to bootloop, requiring a factory reset.
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by heavenlyblue on Friday July 10, 2020 @08:43AM (#23790900)
You can still download the history as a text file though - I did that.
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by doersino on Friday July 10, 2020 @10:42AM (#23791904)
Not in Germany: https://faq.whatsapp.com/android/chats/how-to-save-your-chat...

Don't ask me what's leading WhatsApp's legal department to believe that this feature doesn't comply with German privacy laws. It's quite puzzling. (I would've rather expected a feature like this to be mandated by EU laws.)

As of now, there's no non-hacky way of exporting chats for German users. (Hacky ways include: dubious third-party software, copying each message individually, taking screenshots.)

Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by hexaz on Friday July 10, 2020 @06:33PM (#23797357)
Most probably not privacy related, but the result of Blackberry suing Facebook over some patent stuff in Germany. (German source: https://t3n.de/news/whatsapp-kein-chat-export-mehr-1238327/)
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by doersino on Saturday July 11, 2020 @07:44AM (#23801358)
Thanks for the pointer! Of course it's software patent trolling, ugh.
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by DoofusOfDeath on Friday July 10, 2020 @05:40PM (#23796836)
Can you obtain that same information via a GPDR request for all of the information they have about you?
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by doersino on Saturday July 11, 2020 @07:42AM (#23801344)
Messages and associated media aren't permanently stored on WhatsApp's servers, so sadly this wouldn't help much with chat export.
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by fencepost on Saturday July 11, 2020 @09:52AM (#23802210)
Time for a road trip?
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by anonms-coward on Friday July 10, 2020 @09:40AM (#23791358)
Isn't that just for one chat? Can you download all combined?
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by ramraj07 on Friday July 10, 2020 @08:16PM (#23798146)
Which direction? I and my sis did both directions quite painlessly (includign images etc) a year back.
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by cerberusss on Saturday July 11, 2020 @03:31AM (#23800302)
From iPhone to Android. The software works. But shortly afterwards, WhatsApp threw up some kind of "timeout" screen twice, where I couldn't use the app for a hour. I don't need that uncertainty.
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by e2021 on Friday July 10, 2020 @09:57AM (#23791499)
The android/iPhone thing isn’t on purpose, it’s an artifact of the organizational structure at WhatsApp
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by the_pwner224 on Friday July 10, 2020 @10:27AM (#23791760)
WhatsApp isn't made by a single indie developer, and wasn't just released by that single indie developer a month ago. If it can't sync between Apple Phones and Android, then WhatsApp has intentionally chosen not to fix that and instead spend many millions of dollars on other stuff. It is on purpose.
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by beagle3 on Friday July 10, 2020 @10:05AM (#23791559)
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by fencepost on Saturday July 11, 2020 @10:01AM (#23802270)
Never used WhatsApp, but is it related to Apple policies? I just ran into something reminiscent of this with Microsoft's Authenticator app - runs on both platforms, supports backup and restore, but apparently on Apple devices it's only able to use iCloud for backup rather than an associated Microsoft account.

The net effect is that if you're switching you have to redo 2fa for all accounts where you haven't separately backed up your TOTP codes.

Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by cerberusss on Friday July 10, 2020 @10:05AM (#23791556)
What makes you sure it's not on purpose? I don't disagree, I'm just curious about your statement.
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by scarface74 on Friday July 10, 2020 @10:15AM (#23791666)
Why would WhatsApp want to make it hard to stay on their platform?
Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by 6510 on Saturday July 11, 2020 @01:01AM (#23799645)
Thats a different question but 1) they know and 2) they can fix it fast therefore 3) it is on purpose