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Re:Why IBM doesn’t agree with Google’s Open Usage Commons fo... by koffiezet on Thursday July 09, 2020 @08:36AM (#23779500)
> (Hello Red Hat lol)

I think you underestimate the revenue OpenShift is generating... If I see the support contract bills of my clients, holy crap, you could host a ton of stuff on GCP for that.

Re:Why IBM doesn’t agree with Google’s Open Usage Commons fo... by freedomben on Thursday July 09, 2020 @11:47AM (#23781510)
Disclaimer: I'm a Red Hat consultant but this is entirely my own opinion

Comparing consulting bills to IaaS bills is apples/oranges. Consultants are really just Humans as a Service (HaaS). A lot of the work we do is to bring in expertise in something that would otherwise be difficult and expensive to hire for and augment a team for a short period. We actually help customers with cloud-stuff (like AWS and Azure) all the time.

A lot of the work I've been doing lately is stuff that would have to be done if you were using K8s on cloud instead of OpenShift. I'm currently helping to migrate services from older platforms (like BlueMix) to OpenShift. You can look for that "feature" all day long in the cloud console, but you won't find it :-)

Re:Why IBM doesn’t agree with Google’s Open Usage Commons fo... by koffiezet on Friday July 10, 2020 @02:03PM (#23794388)
I'm not talking about consultancy fees. I'm only talking about Redhat licenses for OpenShift and its support contracts.

I'm also a freelance consultant mainly focused on OpenShift and k8s, my bill is separate.

Re:Why IBM doesn’t agree with Google’s Open Usage Commons fo... by freedomben on Friday July 10, 2020 @02:19PM (#23794574)
Ah ok, I gotcha. No disagreement here. Apologies for misconstruing your comment.
Re:Why IBM doesn’t agree with Google’s Open Usage Commons fo... by znpy on Thursday July 09, 2020 @10:56AM (#23780967)

    If I see the support contract bills of my clients, 
    holy crap, you could host a ton of stuff on GCP 
    for that. 
yeah with no support lol, and when something goes wrong... oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

on a more serious note: in order to compare apples to apples you should compare red hat support bills with GCP support bills (i think they call that "professional services"). I guess they aren't cheap either.

Re:Why IBM doesn’t agree with Google’s Open Usage Commons fo... by koffiezet on Friday July 10, 2020 @02:05PM (#23794426)
> eah with no support lol, and when something goes wrong... oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sadly, also my experience. Response SLA of 2 hours? Please attach sosreport is ALWAYS the first reply. Even if you attached it in the original ticket (which we always do). The technical quality of the support is sub-par, most of the time when we include technical information, they don't seem to understand it at all...