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Re:Sweden: higher Covid-19 death rate while failing to colle... by glofish on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @07:20PM (#23765366)
uh no,

I would most certainly trade the past six months for a normal life even if it meant that I would die six months sooner.

wouldn't you?

Re:Sweden: higher Covid-19 death rate while failing to colle... by tsimionescu on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @01:40AM (#23767200)
No, considering that the past 6 months also mean my parents and grandparents stayed safe, which I actually care about a little bit. Not to mention my God-parents, uncles, and the well-being of my friends' relatives.

We live in a society, and Covid19 is not just a question of personal choices.

Not to mention, people who have defied quarantine orders and have spread this to their loved ones can become depressed and suicidal, so quality of life for many who would spread this disease will become abysmal.

Re:Sweden: higher Covid-19 death rate while failing to colle... by gmadsen on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @07:26PM (#23765413)
thats not the deal though. You would be trading 6 months of isolation for the possibility of dying 50 years sooner
Re:Sweden: higher Covid-19 death rate while failing to colle... by glofish on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @07:41PM (#23765521)
wait if you put it that way that is not the deal either,

six months of isolation for a 1/100,000 chance of dying 50 years sooner,

turns out I take that chance of dying each time I climb a mountain, and I get back less value than what is on offer in your trade

Re:Sweden: higher Covid-19 death rate while failing to colle... by magnio on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @08:28PM (#23765808)
Not sure how you get that number, but if you didn't isolate, wouldn't your chance of dying higher?
Re:Sweden: higher Covid-19 death rate while failing to colle... by glofish on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @08:36PM (#23765846)
this is a risk/benefit analysis, we are talking about tradeoffs

would I trade getting out of six months of quarantine if the price was the chance of 1/100,000 of dying. Of course I would.

I contrasted that to the fact that I frequently take on much higher risks of dying (mountaineering) for a lot less payoff (it is fun).

(the 1/100,000 is an estimate based on existing data for my age group)

Re:Sweden: higher Covid-19 death rate while failing to colle... by chipotle_coyote on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @09:16PM (#23766028)
That is the estimated risk of death, not the risk of becoming a carrier of the disease, possibly an asymptomatic one, who spreads it to others.

This is what's really frustrating about this whole "trade-off" argument: it's fine to make trade-offs for yourself, but you do not have the right to implicitly force your choice on others. If you sit within six feet of me not wearing a mask, my risk of falling off a mountain does not increase by any measurable amount. If you have Covid-19 and don't know it yet, the same cannot be said.

Re:Sweden: higher Covid-19 death rate while failing to colle... by glofish on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @09:24PM (#23766062)
how is anyone forcing anything on you?

also where and in what way did the mask pop into this at all?

we are talking about what a person would trade aka risk vs reward

Re:Sweden: higher Covid-19 death rate while failing to colle... by jussij on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @12:42AM (#23766951)
The OP is just pointing out you live in a community.

So this is not just about what is good for you, but instead what is good for the community.

For example, having you out of quarantine early might be good for you, but it will definitely not be good for many others.

Re:Sweden: higher Covid-19 death rate while failing to colle... by emiliobumachar on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @06:16AM (#23768515)
No, glofish understood the deal right. It varies a lot from person to person.