Re:“Industrial Society and its Future”: the writings of the ...
by smart_jackal on Monday July 06, 2020 @07:15AM
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The caveman pleasures were limited to the culinary (having food) and the carnal (having sex). But today's human has surpassed any and every definition of greed for pleasure. Capitalists having billions in their banks and shareholding across companies still crave for more and more pleasure. I just don't understand what kind of pleasure people are after today.
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Re:“Industrial Society and its Future”: the writings of the ...
by doukdouk on Monday July 06, 2020 @07:29AM
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Given that animal grieve and mourn their dead [0], cows have best friends [1], or many species of animals play [2], among many other things, assuming that cavemen lives is only "culinary" and "carnal" pleasure means humans not long ago ("cavemen") had internal lives far, far simpler than what many animal species experience.
[0] https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/do-animals-exp...
[1] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/jul/07/cows-b...
[2] https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/games_animals_...
Re:“Industrial Society and its Future”: the writings of the ...
by esperent on Monday July 06, 2020 @07:21AM
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That's unfair in the extreme to the intellect of cavemen and women. No doubt they had rich and complex internal lives and were as capable as you or I of enjoying birdsong, beautiful sunsets, and so on.
Re:“Industrial Society and its Future”: the writings of the ...
by The_Colonel on Monday July 06, 2020 @07:20AM
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Yes, pleasure is today more accessible than ever and people sort of get hooked on it.
But the original argument was that if you are in harmony with nature you even dislike the idea of strong pleasure (like sex) and that's just clearly wrong.