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Re:Triso particles have safety features that may power a new... by pfdietz on Saturday July 04, 2020 @07:31AM (#23731604)
The safety procedures don't help the cost, but even the non-nuclear part of a nuclear power plant is expensive. The "nuclear island" is just 1/3rd the cost of a nuclear power plant. All externally heated thermal power plants have become uncompetitive now. Not just nuclear, but also coal, geothermal, and concentrating solar thermal.

So, TRISO is depending not just on the nuclear island being cheaper, but the non-nuclear part somehow becoming less expensive. This probably involves very high temperature, for example for nuclear air Brayton. But any time you go to higher temperature material problems rapidly accumulate.

In any case, there will always be a cost premium to the nuclear part of a nuclear power plant, if only because it has to be very reliable because it can't be repaired if something serious breaks. In (say) a coal fired power plant one can send workers into the guts of the shut down plant to fix or replace things. In a reactor, I don't think that's possible, even if the fuel has been removed. The residual radioactivity is too high.

Re:Triso particles have safety features that may power a new... by jessriedel on Saturday July 04, 2020 @10:58AM (#23732667)
Thanks.

> All externally heated thermal power plants have become uncompetitive now. Not just nuclear, but also coal, geothermal, and concentrating solar thermal

Are you saying that an externally heated power plant is unlikely to be cost competitive even if the source of energy is free? If not, your overall comment doesn't make sense to me. If so, that's an extraordinary that could very well be true, but I haven't heard anyone argue it and I'd be extremely interested in further reading/links/citations.

Re:Triso particles have safety features that may power a new... by pfdietz on Saturday July 04, 2020 @11:13AM (#23732799)
Yes, that is the direction things are going in. The remaining thermal power technology that's still (for the moment) viable is combustion turbines, which are internally heated (combined cycle does have an externally heated bottoming cycle, but only 1/3 the power output goes through that, and it shares the generator with the combustion turbine proper.) But even combustion turbine sales are falling; that's what's gotten General Electric in such trouble lately.
Re:Triso particles have safety features that may power a new... by jessriedel on Saturday July 04, 2020 @12:32PM (#23733335)
Much appreciated! Are there any forward-looking doc's you can recommend that discuss this in more depth, especially any that try to get at the basic physics or economics? It's truly startling to me, and to the extent it's true it really changes the way people should think about future energy tech.