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Re:A practical case on why we need the humanities by recursivedoubts on Friday July 03, 2020 @06:55PM (#23728331)
The academic humanities departments have made their bed over the last fifty years.

Now they may lie in it.

Re:A practical case on why we need the humanities by apsec112 on Friday July 03, 2020 @06:57PM (#23728350)
Sorry, I'm not sure what you're referring to?
Re:A practical case on why we need the humanities by lr4444lr on Friday July 03, 2020 @07:16PM (#23728463)
The Sokal Hoax was a loud canary in the coalmine that was ignored:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair

Re:A practical case on why we need the humanities by eggsmediumrare on Friday July 03, 2020 @07:03PM (#23728384)
I'm guessing over-admission, watered down standards and acquiescence to bad ideas, but I can't speak for the original poster.
Re:A practical case on why we need the humanities by recursivedoubts on Friday July 03, 2020 @07:11PM (#23728434)
Yes to all of that. A culture of fear and loathing. Charging obscene levels of tuition for it while piling the real work onto adjuncts. Close-mindedness that would make John Calvin blush. The list is extremely long.

There is no chance I would let a university humanities department anywhere near my children at this point.

Re:A practical case on why we need the humanities by ianleeclark on Friday July 03, 2020 @07:20PM (#23728496)
> A culture of fear and loathing.

Examples?

> Charging obscene levels of tuition for it while piling the real work onto adjuncts.

This is endemic to the US university system, in general.

> Close-mindedness that would make John Calvin blush.

Again, it's all fun and games to riff and instantly disregard a vast number of fields of study, but you're not doing yourself any favors by just throwing out a laundry list. You have an immense distrust towards these departments: air your grievances, I'm sure a lot of us are interested.

> There is no chance I would let a university humanities department anywhere near my children at this point.

Universities tend to admit adults. Also, if your children go into university, are you going to refuse to pay for their general courses? They're going to have to touch a literature or history course eventually. Are you going to forbid them from taking 3 credit hours of Spanish?

Re:A practical case on why we need the humanities by honksillet on Friday July 03, 2020 @07:59PM (#23728753)
Re:A practical case on why we need the humanities by ianleeclark on Friday July 03, 2020 @08:08PM (#23728795)
Im sorry, but I'm not getting your point. A guy in a non-humanities field of study got put on involuntary leave, and, in your mind, this is due to the humanities department?
Re:A practical case on why we need the humanities by mcguire on Friday July 03, 2020 @09:11PM (#23729136)
"On June 3, Klein was placed on involuntary administrative leave until June 24. The notice states that the leave is necessary to give UCLA the opportunity to consider "allegations regarding behavior made in the course and scope of your position … inconsistent with [UCLA's Faculty Code of Conduct].""

What exactly is the university to do while it pondering the issue?

Re:A practical case on why we need the humanities by barry-cotter on Friday July 03, 2020 @10:03PM (#23729392)
They’re not supposed to ponder the issue. They’re supposed to tell the students that if they don’t like departmental policy the door is that way.
Re:A practical case on why we need the humanities by recursivedoubts on Friday July 03, 2020 @09:07PM (#23729113)
Of course not.

There are wonderful resources for getting a liberal education today. More than ever, in fact, and far less expensive than ever as well.

They just have nothing to do with going into a humanities department.

Re:A practical case on why we need the humanities by ianleeclark on Friday July 03, 2020 @10:41PM (#23729594)
A liberal education, by definition, includes the humanities.

What's the point of using a forum for discussion if you're just going to make vague assertions and never bother to back them up? You talk of fear and loathing, yet seemingly operate on visceral reaction given that you continually refuse/are unable to list your grievances.

Re:A practical case on why we need the humanities by recursivedoubts on Saturday July 04, 2020 @02:13PM (#23733931)
I think you misunderstand me: I very much am in favor of the humanities as a part of a liberal education, I just wouldn't expect a university humanities department to teach me (or my children) much about them. There are exceptions, of course, but we are speaking internet here.

For a general overview of the situation, Allan Blooms "The Closing of The American Mind" covers it far better than I (or almost anyone else) could.

Re:A practical case on why we need the humanities by antepodius on Saturday July 04, 2020 @01:39PM (#23733721)
The humanities aren't just in the universities. If what you want is self-edification, you can get a lot of it online. The rest can be solved by carving out a niche of people like yourself you can talk to about the subject in real life.
Re:A practical case on why we need the humanities by glial on Friday July 03, 2020 @09:52PM (#23729339)
I went to St John's College. Loved every minute of it. It may be the exception that proves the rule, however.
Re:A practical case on why we need the humanities by pnako on Friday July 03, 2020 @08:41PM (#23728987)
Humanities departments becoming de-facto meetings of the party, as opposed to a cafe where philosophers of all strokes meet to exchange ideas.