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Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by naruvimama on Thursday July 02, 2020 @04:03PM (#23717392)
Swastika is yet another example of "western universalism", it has a relatively recent negative connotation in Europe & US.

Whereas for Asians, native Americans & for much of the ancient world it has entirely different meanings.

Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by protomyth on Thursday July 02, 2020 @04:12PM (#23717483)
Yeah, there are a couple of tipis that go up every year that get comments from the damn ignorant. What can I expect from people looking for outrage?
Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by naruvimama on Thursday July 02, 2020 @04:25PM (#23717612)
Meanwhile it is used by radical groups to run smear campaigns elsewhere in the world.

https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/from-devi-in-hijab-om-as-...

Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by protomyth on Thursday July 02, 2020 @04:37PM (#23717747)
Well, that is them and this is us. I think expecting other cultures to stop using something because someone else "ruined" it is stupid.

I'm also getting a little sick of down votes every damn time I mention Native Americans. I'm starting to wonder.

Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by bastawhiz on Thursday July 02, 2020 @07:31PM (#23719274)
> it has a relatively recent negative connotation in Europe & US

Seventeen million people died in the Holocaust. That number is larger than the dollar amount that many of the companies on this website raise. That's more people than you'll meet in your entire lifetime, perhaps more than you'll _see_ in your lifetime. This is the population of New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston put together. Those people were physically destroyed by folks identifying with that symbol.

It's really, really hard to say this symbol doesn't carry hate universally—even if a Buddhist practitioner were to use it—because putting it on your video game car on _a global game_ whose audience is ~100% folks who are well-aware of nazism (and, in fact, people whose histories are tainted by the effects of the Holocaust). But more to the point, the confederate flag _was invented_ to represent hate. It had no established use before the confederacy. Pedantry about whether swastikas are universally racist or not is pointless, because the topic at hand is about a symbol which is universally recognized as one of hate.

Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by odshoifsdhfs on Friday July 03, 2020 @05:34AM (#23722511)
The crusades killed around 3 million. Can we ban the cross as well from everywhere? Please?

The Mao era probably around 75 million. Lets ban any symbol related to them (sickle and hammer, red flags, etc).

(ps: I am not in favor of the swastika, just don't like how a symbol can be used for thousands of years, hijacked by some pricks, and now everyone can't use it anymore, and the people that have an emotional connection to it have to censor themselves. Also, isn't the buddhist one reversed from the Nazi one? Mirrored? Which makes it even worse as you are using a similar but not exactly the same symbol and ignorant folks can't spot the difference)

Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by naruvimama on Friday July 03, 2020 @05:19AM (#23722422)
Origin and delibrate mistranslation to swastika

https://www.facebook.com/upwordindia/videos/2662610620694569...