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Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by filleduchaos on Thursday July 02, 2020 @04:02PM (#23717378)
People keep throwing around words like "heritage", "southern identity" and "culture", but are most often very hard pressed indeed to explain what exactly is the identity or culture that is best represented by what's at the very least a flag of sedition/treason (even if we leave out the racist overtones).

I mean, it's not like I'm wholly unsympathetic to failed secessionist states and their symbols/paraphernalia. People still use the flag of Biafra where I'm from, after all. But those that do are self-aware enough to acknowledge/be upfront about the values they hold and the message they pass when they use it (it certainly helps that Biafra attempted to secede in response to ethnic tensions/discrimination, not because it wanted amongst other things the right to keep slaves).

Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by TheAdamAndChe on Thursday July 02, 2020 @04:14PM (#23717516)
People are hard pressed to explain what is the identity or culture best represented by what's a flag of sedition/treason

It's just a symbol of identity or culture, like most flags. There's a massive cultural difference between the rural south and the highly populated coastal cities. The flag to many is a symbol of that difference, and has many of the psychological undertones that makes the "don't tread on me" flag popular, mostly a willingness to push back against external influences.

Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by snowwrestler on Thursday July 02, 2020 @04:46PM (#23717855)
There are a lot of people in the South who do not show or like the Confederate flag, even in rural areas.

And there are a lot of people outside the South who do show and like the Confederate flag.

So while I agree that it's a symbol of an identity and culture, I don't think it's a geographic regional identity and culture.

I think you're arguing in good faith based on your own experience, but I would gently suggest this is an opportunity to consider a wider variety of data and perspectives.