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Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by greenie_beans on Thursday July 02, 2020 @03:21PM (#23716953)
They're banning a hateful symbol. That's totally fair game for censorship.

I don't know where you come from, but in my home state where we JUST THIS WEEK removed the Confederate emblem from our state flag, only people with real hatred towards non-white people use that symbol.

Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by soraminazuki on Thursday July 02, 2020 @09:27PM (#23720141)
> we JUST THIS WEEK removed the Confederate emblem from our state flag

That was long overdue, but it has little to do with the point that I'm trying to make. What I'm saying that we should be more careful about what we wish for, especially for something as dangerous as censorship, because things never work out the way we want it to. If the system worked as intended, there wouldn't be a problem of systemic racism now.

Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by greenie_beans on Friday July 03, 2020 @10:05AM (#23724122)
The system is working exactly as intended, that’s why we have systemic racism. If you look at the history of Reconstruction in the South and how it ended and gave rise to Jim Crow rule, you’ll see that we are very much an intentional system of white supremacy.
Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by soraminazuki on Sunday July 05, 2020 @04:11AM (#23737281)
I think it's fair to say that the public opinion has shifted significantly from that point, and if democracy was working in its most ideal form, it should be protecting the rights of black people.

But the point is that even with the best of intentions, supposed "solutions" to any sort of problem won't always be effective and could end up making the situation worse if people don't think through. Racism matters, but how you solve it equally matters as well.

Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by greenie_beans on Monday July 06, 2020 @12:31PM (#23749556)
You're right that public opinion has shifted. However, institutionally, hardly any change has happened.

Also, you're essentially making the slippery slope logical fallacy about needing to be careful with how you censor people. I don't buy into your argument.

Re:MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to... by egypturnash on Thursday July 02, 2020 @06:39PM (#23718935)
Congratulations on that, btw! Watching this shit finally come down in your hometown feels REALLY GOOD.