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Re:New Mac Ransomware Is Even More Sinister Than It Appears by fulafel on Thursday July 02, 2020 @01:29AM (#23710305)
Don't these kinds of frankenstein mashups of different malware components of various quality occur pretty often, is there some reason the interviewees and reporter imply this is a mystery? Or are all the components previously unseen? If the latter, then would warrant speculation of how the competently implemented stack was burned by someone who didn't know how to set up the monetization properly.
Re:New Mac Ransomware Is Even More Sinister Than It Appears by oefrha on Thursday July 02, 2020 @02:27AM (#23710556)
> Don't these kinds of frankenstein mashups of different malware components of various quality occur pretty often

Yes.

> Or are all the components previously unseen?

Not really.

From TFA:

"My current gut feeling about all of this is that someone basically was designing a piece of Mac malware that would give them the ability to completely remotely control an infected system. And then they also added some ransomware capability as a way to make extra money."

That basically described how ransomware was born, god knows how long ago.

IMO the better question is why the hell attackers targeting macOS haven't been doing this until now (if we take their word for it).

> is there some reason the interviewees and reporter imply this is a mystery?

I suspect the reason is boring: they want to grab eyeballs.

Re:New Mac Ransomware Is Even More Sinister Than It Appears by kalium-xyz on Thursday July 02, 2020 @03:34AM (#23710835)
>why the hell attackers targeting macOS haven't been doing this until now AFAIK most companies which have business critical hardware that cant recover from ransomware attacks dont run macOS
Re:New Mac Ransomware Is Even More Sinister Than It Appears by aphroz on Thursday July 02, 2020 @04:41AM (#23711212)
Most probably run linux ;) I think that creators of ransomwares try to target the broader audience. The ROI is probably higher if you target Windows, as this it is probably running on 95% of the personal computers worldwide. Linux servers have probably more valuable data, but better security and backups. While I would be curious to know the percentage of Mac users who are installing softwares from another source than the app store. I will go even further, I am quite sure than a good percentage of Mac users never use any other software than an internet browser.
Re:New Mac Ransomware Is Even More Sinister Than It Appears by evgen on Thursday July 02, 2020 @05:34AM (#23711489)
I think that you are also going to find that shops with any significant percentage of Macs that the shared services are run on Linux and not Windows. In a Windows-only shop you can basically get complete control once you pop the PDC, but in a blended/hybrid setup you are unlikely to be able to make quick lateral traversal to the servers that you would need to compromise to make the effort lucrative.

FWIW, I would bet that 25% or more of all enterprise Macs are also going to be running homebrew and a ton of standard unix software.

Re:New Mac Ransomware Is Even More Sinister Than It Appears by Angostura on Thursday July 02, 2020 @11:08AM (#23714044)
> I am quite sure than a good percentage of Mac users never use any other software than an internet browser.

Is that based on anything much, or is that just a bit of prejudice? Where I work its the PCs that are used as basic e-mail/word/browser machine - the Macs are used by people who are doing a bit more.

Re:New Mac Ransomware Is Even More Sinister Than It Appears by bryanrasmussen on Thursday July 02, 2020 @05:21AM (#23711425)
>I am quite sure than a good percentage of Mac users never use any other software than an internet browser.

that seems like a particularly expensive device for only internet browsing.

Re:New Mac Ransomware Is Even More Sinister Than It Appears by noisem4ker on Thursday July 02, 2020 @08:09AM (#23712261)
I'm not sure why a reply disappeared here, but I feel like reaffirming its late content:

>The strength of Apple products is to be perceived as a higher value thanks to design and marketing. People would buy a Gucci t-shirt for 300$, it's also particularly expensive for a t-shirt. At this point people don't buy the product for its intrinsic value, but for status and perceived value.

Re:New Mac Ransomware Is Even More Sinister Than It Appears by close04 on Thursday July 02, 2020 @08:58AM (#23712632)
While the brand always commands a premium (Gucci, Apple, etc.) the comparison is unfair. Fashion is all about image, not functionality so a Gucci t-shirt is for all intents and purposes a regular t-shirt with a Gucci logo (or worse [0]). In tech most companies do struggle to bring something all of their own. Apple in particular does an above average job at this: dedicated OS, dedicated CPUs, dedicated various other chips (like the T, W, U chips). Saying it's only a logo is disingenuous.

[0] https://www.dailycal.org/2013/07/19/kanye-wests-ridiculously...

Re:New Mac Ransomware Is Even More Sinister Than It Appears by tkeAmarktinClss on Thursday July 02, 2020 @09:46AM (#23713005)
Extremely debatable. There are uncountable negatives as an Apple consumer.

Sure you might have a few benefits, but you must deal with unavoidable pains at every turn.

Re:New Mac Ransomware Is Even More Sinister Than It Appears by bryanrasmussen on Thursday July 02, 2020 @09:54AM (#23713104)
I agree there are uncountable negatives as an Apple consumer, but I'm not sure they are any greater in number than the uncountable negatives of being a Windows consumer - and I kind of like Windows. Or for that matter if you're not a developer the uncountable negatives of Ubuntu.
Re:New Mac Ransomware Is Even More Sinister Than It Appears by tkeAmarktinClss on Thursday July 02, 2020 @10:06AM (#23713207)
Ubuntu server is flawless, you take that back :P

Ubuntu desktop... I tried multiple times across multiple decades, I've given up.

Not sure what Windows issues exist outside licences disappearing upon reformatting. But that's still exponentially cheaper to fix then any Apple product.

Re:New Mac Ransomware Is Even More Sinister Than It Appears by bryanrasmussen on Thursday July 02, 2020 @10:14AM (#23713298)
>Not sure what Windows issues exist outside licences

well, perhaps not for you and I guess not really, in my experience, for me, but I have noticed that the population at large seems to suffer recurrent damage related to some ancient decisions made regarding Windows security.

Re:New Mac Ransomware Is Even More Sinister Than It Appears by valuearb on Friday July 03, 2020 @12:37PM (#23725386)
Lol. I remember when the iMac Pro was released at $4999, and many said they could build their own for a fraction of the cost, and it turned out the parts alone were $4500. Without design, packaging, and warranty.

5k & 4K screens, aluminum bodied laptops, MagSafe connectors, MacOS, high performance SSD read/write speeds, T2 onboard security, fusion drives, etc, etc,

People pretend design and development is free, then bitch about their plastic crap cheap laptop.

Re:New Mac Ransomware Is Even More Sinister Than It Appears by user5994461 on Thursday July 02, 2020 @05:43AM (#23711536)
>>> IMO the better question is why the hell attackers targeting macOS haven't been doing this until now (if we take their word for it).

They've been doing it for a while. Mac has been since the platform with the most malware since the past year or two. It's outclassed Windows.

Adware is more widespread (changing browser homepage, injecting ads, paid popups), I think it makes more money on a regular basis than bricking laptops.