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Re:Why Facebook is well placed to weather an advertising boy... by IfOnlyYouKnew on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @11:50PM (#23709808)
The idea of replacing ads with direct payments isn't entirely new, and the reason for it failing far more often than not is that nobody is willing to spend what they represent in ad-value themselves.

If you just divide FB's revenue by users you'll get, say $20/year (no idea, someone look it up).

But if FB were to offer an ad-free experience for $20, the users willing to pay will be the most valuable. If you're willing to pay $20, you are probably worth $40 in advertising. Maybe you'd be willing to pay $40? Turns out those people are worth $80.

Re:Why Facebook is well placed to weather an advertising boy... by BbzzbB on Thursday July 02, 2020 @01:51AM (#23710399)
You oughta open a FB quarterly presentation some day, it is quite eye opening how off the charts they are in terms of user monetization. $20 yearly wouldn't cut it at all, in North America the average revenue per user (ARPU, trailing 12-months) is about $145 (yes, $145 * 253M monthly active users). It's not even enough to match the worldwide ARPU (about $29, for 2.6B users). The value FB extracts from it's users, particularly in NA, is simply astonishing, I'll leave you to Googling the ARPU of other web platforms to get an idea.

https://investor.fb.com/financials/?section=quarterlyearning...

Re:Why Facebook is well placed to weather an advertising boy... by IfOnlyYouKnew on Thursday July 02, 2020 @02:01AM (#23710452)
I actually feel quite accomplished to be less than <50% off without ever having the slightest interest in reading their financial reports.
Re:Why Facebook is well placed to weather an advertising boy... by mrweasel on Thursday July 02, 2020 @05:36AM (#23711499)
The where some numbers in 2016 saying that a US user was worth around $60 per year, EU users a little less (around $40). The users in the rest of the world is worth only a few dollars a year, if anything.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/28/how-much-...

Re:Why Facebook is well placed to weather an advertising boy... by harikb on Thursday July 02, 2020 @04:17AM (#23711066)
This! I have been trying to make this point for a while. I will be quoting this whenever I can :)
Re:Why Facebook is well placed to weather an advertising boy... by cma on Thursday July 02, 2020 @04:37AM (#23711187)
Maybe they could price discriminate based on how much you are worth in advertising.
Re:Why Facebook is well placed to weather an advertising boy... by alpha_squared on Thursday July 02, 2020 @12:48AM (#23710100)
And that's sort of the problem with chasing as much revenue as possible and is why capitalism has been in the crosshairs for conversations on equity as of late.

I think the idea has merit, a paid social media platform that fosters engagement with people you care about rather than driving "engagement" with the goal of more ad revenue.