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Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by whatshisface on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @07:34PM (#23708126)
That argument doesn't work because some people are so conformist that every detail about their personal lives would be considered 100% unobjectionable to anyone they know or work for. (This is impossible when you know or work for diverse groups, but inside of a monoculture it's possible.)
Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by incompatible on Thursday July 02, 2020 @12:10AM (#23709926)
Somebody thinking they are "safe", inside a monoculture, could easily get caught out saying or doing something that turns out (now, or in a few years) to be racist, sexist, homophobic etc., (or overly politically correct, for that matter), even as a joke, slip of the tongue, or ignorance.
Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by ryan-allen on Friday July 03, 2020 @07:11AM (#23722986)
Which we have witnessed with celebrities having 10 year old tweets dug up when twitter was just a stupid little website.

The safest bet is to say as little as possible when it comes to the internet.

Yet there are millions of kids who cannot legally consent uploading to Tiktok et al. I'm so glad this didn't exist when I was 9 years old. I'm not sure how 2020 9 year olds re going to feel about it in 20 years time.

Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by SiVal on Thursday July 02, 2020 @02:12AM (#23710492)
Ask your political conformist, "So I'll give you $20 for a copy of your tax return, your birth certificate, financial acct numbers, and passwords. There's a guy I know who said he'd pay me if I could get them from you, and I'm willing to split it with you."
Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by Frondo on Thursday July 02, 2020 @12:11PM (#23714807)
Some people are also so good at compartmentalizing that they believe this, but ask the right question and they realize they do in fact have (deeply shameful, at least to them) things to hide. Of course, you have to know the dirty secret.

Case in point: I had an ex whose grandparents lived in a mansion on a ranch in the Ozarks, and were very well off (some kind of corporate lawyers). Their public image in the community was one of great wealth and benevolence; due to some bad financial moves, they'd lost everything a few years back and their kids, grandkids, and great grandkids had scrambled to buy the house out from them, a loving gesture, so they could maintain their image. I learned of this secret (which itself isn't really shameful, people make mistakes, even big ones!) after a year or so.

They were both of the "we have nothing to hide," but one day I asked whether they'd like their neighbors to know about their penury; they told me to shut up and mind my own business.

Nothing to hide? Everyone's got something to hide, but for the most part we don't know it, because they're hiding it!!

Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by felipemnoa on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @07:59PM (#23708322)
I don't buy it. We all do things that although not wrong we still wouldn't like to share with anyone. i.e. No person wants to be seen picking their nose, although everybody does it.
Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by cgriswald on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @08:24PM (#23708523)
If someone believes they wouldn't mind being seen picking their nose, it doesn't matter whether they are correct in that assessment. You won't convince them using such an argument because they won't agree with your premise even though you're right.
Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by searchableguy on Thursday July 02, 2020 @06:31AM (#23711791)
I doubt most of them will agree to me seeing what they do inside bathroom.
Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by ekianjo on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @08:23PM (#23708512)
> some people are so conformist that every detail about their personal lives would be considered 100% unobjectionable

In this time and age, I find that highly doubtful.

Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by AnthonyMouse on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @08:43PM (#23708669)
It's not a question of whether it's true, it's a question of whether they think it's true.
Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by raxxorrax on Thursday July 02, 2020 @04:13AM (#23711040)
Heh, never looked at this from that angle. At least some more people might have gotten an idea for why privacy is indeed important.
Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by TallGuyShort on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @08:51PM (#23708722)
Somebody prove it by posting their email password. If we require encryption backdoors, the odds of it all ending up on Pastebin at some point is about the same.
Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by ibejoeb on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @11:44PM (#23709767)
hey, if you type in your pw, it will show as stars

  ********* see!
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http://bash.org/?244321

Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by DarkWiiPlayer on Thursday July 02, 2020 @02:15AM (#23710507)
old joke, but still hilarious
Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by Nextgrid on Thursday July 02, 2020 @01:05AM (#23710174)
With the poor security practices of the non-technical majority, it doesn't take an encryption backdoor for their password to end up on PasteBin. It already is on PasteBin.
Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by vmception on Thursday July 02, 2020 @12:38AM (#23710054)
Whatever you tell to the infallible us government you are also telling to china.... and ISIS
Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by pdonis on Thursday July 02, 2020 @12:56AM (#23710135)
Then just change the question to "Cool, can I take a look at your bank account details?"
Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by nl on Thursday July 02, 2020 @01:59AM (#23710441)
Which doesn't work either: "Well the government already knows my bank details"
Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by wiz21c on Thursday July 02, 2020 @03:00AM (#23710688)
What I think is that many of us in my country, where government is quite powerful (and still democratic) have reached a level of comfort such that the fact of having some state agency looking at some of my detail is totally acceptable since it doesn't change our comfort.

Now, tell those same people they'll have to pay a tax based on the destination they choose for holidays, and you'll get them in the streets (I'm exagerating a bit, but you get the picture)...

Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by kelnos on Thursday July 02, 2020 @02:42AM (#23710612)
"It's not about the government having your bank account details. Do you want scammers to have your bank account details? Identity thieves? If encryption is outlawed, you won't be able to keep it from them."
Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by pdonis on Thursday July 02, 2020 @02:14AM (#23710502)
Ok, then feel free to post yours here.
Re:Oppose the Earn IT Act by nakatanimasaki on Thursday July 02, 2020 @04:11AM (#23711034)
"Yes, but only if I can look at yours. I have nothing to hide, but I don't want to be the only one who's isolated and exposed to the public".

"I have nothing to hide" implies that everyone should be open to investigation.