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Re:Yann LeCun quits Twitter amid acrimonious exchanges on AI... by jcims on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @12:10AM (#23697666)
>A major aspect of crypto research today is crypto UX and making crypto systems that are difficult to misuse.

I'm intrigued by this. Any names (projects/people/protocols) come to mind?

Re:Yann LeCun quits Twitter amid acrimonious exchanges on AI... by joshuamorton on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @01:56AM (#23698207)
Tink (https://github.com/google/tink) and Age (https://github.com/FiloSottile/age) are the obvious examples, although I think to some extent even things like the Signal Protocol apply.

I'd call them both examples of applied cryptography research. I think these projects compare very, very closely to applied ML research:

They come out of industry research labs, are worked on by respected experts, usually involving some academics, ultimately you end up with an artifact beyond just a paper that is useful for something and improves upon the status quo.

I'm admittedly not a total expert, so I don't know how far down to the level of crypto "primitives" this kind of work goes, but I believe there is some effort to pick primitives that are difficult to "mess up" (think "bad primes") and I know tink actively prevents you from making bad choices in the cases where you are forced to make a choice.

Even more broadly, just consider any tptacek (who I should clarify is *not a researcher, lest he correct me) post on pgp/gpg email, or people like Matt Green (http://mattsmith.de/pdfs/DevelopersAreNotTheEnemy.pdf).

Edit: Some poking around also brought up this person: https://yaseminacar.de/, who has some interesting papers on similar subjects.

Re:Yann LeCun quits Twitter amid acrimonious exchanges on AI... by spoopyskelly on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @10:31AM (#23701741)
> misuse

That doesn't mean what you think it means.

Re:Yann LeCun quits Twitter amid acrimonious exchanges on AI... by joshuamorton on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @03:20PM (#23705331)
Misuse has two meaning: to use for a bad purpose (criminals using it to do bad things) or use it incorrectly (hold it wrong). I was using misuse in the "hold it wrong" sense, but I agree that there's ambiguity there.
Re:Yann LeCun quits Twitter amid acrimonious exchanges on AI... by jcims on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @06:53AM (#23700081)
Thanks so much for all of this info, looks like a few really cool projects!!!