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Re:YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer... by tptacek on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @10:31PM (#23697114)
I do not support laws banning white supremacist speech, so I’m not sure what your point is here.
Re:YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer... by dionidium on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @10:11AM (#23701494)
Your framing of Ely's justification for the 1st Amendment did not make it clear that you wouldn't support banning speech you find particularly egregious. I'm happy to have been wrong.
Re:YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer... by tptacek on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @12:27PM (#23703298)
Ely wouldn't either. The point is that 1A protects the political process, not a natural right we have to express ourselves; thus the distinction between government and social suppression of speech.
Re:YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer... by dionidium on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @09:11PM (#23708881)
That's not the operative distinction most of us are working with, nor do I think there's much demand for an alternative theory of the case. The conventional distinction, which is more or less a distinction between positive and negative rights, is working quite nicely, sufficiently explains the motivation for the rule, and isn't in search of improvement.
Re:YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer... by tptacek on Thursday July 02, 2020 @01:40AM (#23710347)
I think you just wrote "my preferred argument disagrees with yours, and there's no reason for us to consider any other".
Re:YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer... by dionidium on Thursday July 02, 2020 @12:21PM (#23714914)
I think you more or less wrote, "I don't really like the idea of Free Speech, but I've been told my whole life that it's important, so I'm looking for a way to resolve this dissonance."

The reason I'm not in search of better arguments is that I don't have any dissonance to resolve. (I realize that sounds snarky but I don't actually mean it to be flippant. That's genuinely what it looks like to me. No snark intended!)