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Re:Keep Your Stuff, for Life by mro_name on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @02:09AM (#23687097)
no wonder looking at the funding, is it?
Re:Keep Your Stuff, for Life by TuringTest on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @02:30AM (#23687229)
You don't need funding for focusing on ease of operation, it's a mindset. Either you're user-centered, or you're not.
Re:Keep Your Stuff, for Life by reallydontask on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @03:21AM (#23687540)
>Either you're user-centered, or you're not.

It really depends on the audience for the product, targeting regular users does require more thought on the UX, etc which almost invariably means more funding.

Re:Keep Your Stuff, for Life by michaelt on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @06:36AM (#23688686)
I don't think the website targets the wrong audience - just the copywriter was so involved in the project they forgot to make what they're offering clear.

When someone says "permanently keep your stuff, for life" do they mean some sort of pay-once eternal backup, like permanent.org? Something censorship-resistant, like Freenet? Something peer-to-peer and distributed-ledger based like Filecoin? Backing up data locked up in cloud services? Converting obscure file formats into ones with more longevity? Bypassing defunct DRM? Activism against civil forfeiture?

Re:Keep Your Stuff, for Life by taneq on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @08:37AM (#23689396)
Just from the front page it looks like a software stack for running your own archive server?
Re:Keep Your Stuff, for Life by BiteCode_dev on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @04:44AM (#23688039)
Why do you think cmd line tools are popular ? Because they are easier to do than a GUI, not because all geeks think the terminal is the only xp that matters.
Re:Keep Your Stuff, for Life by atq2119 on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @04:53AM (#23688096)
That seems... offtopic? You can have command line tools that are easy to use, with documentation focused on user-friendliness, and you can have command line tools where figuring out what they even do in the first place takes a lot of effort. And the same is true for GUIs, for what it's worth.
Re:Keep Your Stuff, for Life by lukeschlather on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @10:22AM (#23690284)
That takes time. Or funding. I have often thought "it would be great if I could suck all my emails and Facebook posts into a local search index." It sounds like this is that. If I wrote it I would have exactly enough time to make sure that all my emails and Facebook posts are in a local index and then I would have no more time for a personal project. Making a nice UI on top of it would easily increase the amount of time fivefold.
Re:Keep Your Stuff, for Life by chiefalchemist on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @05:52AM (#23688401)
Agreed. It's really about benefits vs features. Features are what. Benefits are why; why you should care. Addressing why is essential.
Re:Keep Your Stuff, for Life by eexan on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @09:06AM (#23689587)
About $30k - https://opencollective.com/perkeep/expenses - which is more than most OSS projects would ever see in their lifetime, so it's not such a good excuse for lacking documentation and UX.
Re:Keep Your Stuff, for Life by sukilot on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @09:33AM (#23689800)
$30K over 13 years, and 98% of that funding was the lead developer and his wife (plus 10% from another developer) giving their own money to another developer.

It looks more like "wealthy Googlers helping out a friend with a short term gig" than "financing a professional product".

Perhaps you could donate your time as a UX specialist to help these folks who are more versed in backend systems and libraries.

Re:Keep Your Stuff, for Life by eexan on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @10:01AM (#23690070)
I'm more of a backend person myself, and perkeep disappoints on that side too. See my other comment about how much time it took to ingest just one .iso. I don't think this system would handle a 5 TB video file as the authors claim, that's some false advertisement!

I considered it for my use case (archiving and deduping dozens of terabytes / millions of files on several personal NAS boxes), really wanted to use it - as I find some of its ideas pretty cool, but in the end decided it would be simpler to just write something from scratch instead. It took less time to write it than it would have taken perkeep to ingest my data.