Re:YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer...
by gh02t on Monday June 29, 2020 @04:04PM
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That's missing the forest for the trees... advocating for a "white ethnostate" is not the only thing that makes you a white supremacist and that's the real crux of the comparison. Making the distinction doesn't change the fact that he is rightfully lumped in with them on the basis of being a white supremacist. There is more nuance to Molyneux than David Duke, but he's made his views on the subject pretty clear.
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Re:YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer...
by SpicyLemonZest on Monday June 29, 2020 @04:08PM
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The comment tree was about "white nationalism", which is definitely commonly understood to mean "wants a white ethnostate".
Re:YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer...
by gh02t on Monday June 29, 2020 @04:14PM
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Fair, but is the distinction actually important in this case? It seems to me to be more of a means of obfuscating/derailing the discussion of Molyneux's views.
Re:YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer...
by pingpongchef on Monday June 29, 2020 @04:27PM
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It is important, because it implies Molyneux would take steps to build such a state, when he wouldn't on principle. Molyneux is an anarcho-capitalist: he desires there to be no state at all.
Re:YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer...
by gh02t on Monday June 29, 2020 @04:45PM
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It just happens to be a convenient feature of said anarcho-capitalist society that he would be free to oppress non-whites. You're cherry picking one particular argument he makes without considering his other espoused beliefs.
Re:YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer...
by SpicyLemonZest on Monday June 29, 2020 @04:20PM
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I think precision is important in this context, because people have a bad habit of using terms like "white supremacist" as generic insults against any right-wing figure. Being imprecise diminishes the force of the arguments against Molyneux, who really has made explicit claims that white people are better than everyone else.
Re:YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer...
by gh02t on Monday June 29, 2020 @04:26PM
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I agree with you. I edited my original comment to clarify a bit.
Re:YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer...
by etherael on Monday June 29, 2020 @05:33PM
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> who really has made explicit claims that white people are better than everyone else.
Where?
Re:YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer...
by appleflaxen on Monday June 29, 2020 @05:24PM
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Is it possible that Stefan Molyneux wants one, even though he doesn't actively advocate for it?
Because everything I've heard from him suggests he would love one... which meets your definition squarely.