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Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by Miner49er on Monday June 29, 2020 @01:34PM (#23679913)
Yeah, the ban of T_D is only symbolic; it has been dead for months. I think the real news here is the ban of /r/ChapoTrapHouse, (arguably) the most active leftist subreddit there was.
Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by shakezula on Monday June 29, 2020 @01:45PM (#23680041)
ChapoTrapHouse has been laughing for months about their incoming ban, though. They knew it was coming and they've been preparing for it by migrating to other subs, moving to Discord, etc... T_D users are probably doing the exact same.
Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by SauciestGNU on Monday June 29, 2020 @02:24PM (#23680605)
I posted on cth periodically and while I think it was banned largely so the admins could claim "balance" I don't care at all. Nothing serious happened there, the daily chat threads were fun, but it was clearly eventually going to be banned and I knew that and didn't get invested.
Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by pmiller2 on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @05:57AM (#23688427)
+1 to this. Chapo wasn't bad at all, in terms of breaking actual rules. I saw people on the announcement thread claiming it was full of tankies, and that was reason enough to ban it, but it really wasn't. You wouldn't get very far on Chapo by unironically talking about what a great man Stalin or Mao was -- though, guillotine jokes, including applying them to the necks of landlords, would certainly get you upvotes.

I never saw any actual brigading on the sub itself. Others talk about "organizing brigades through Twitter," and I think it's kind of BS to punish people for that. Reddit doesn't get to police Twitter, and vice versa.

Never saw any actual advocacy of violence against any specific person, either. Sure, there were "kill the landlords" type jokes and memes, but the closest I think I ever saw it get to actual incitement of violence was stuff like "Kissinger needs to fucking die already," or "I would prefer that Trump exit the White House feet first, in a box." You can call that whatever you like, but it's certainly not advocating violence against anyone.

Meanwhile, there's literally a Stalin meme on the front page of r/fullcommunism that says "death to capitalism." Then, there's r/latestagecapitalism, which is a toxic shithole of a sub where you literally can't say "that idea is crazy and will never work because $REASONS," because they have a blacklist of words that are "slurs" of one sort of another that they don't publish, and which will get your post removed if you try and use them.

Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by SauciestGNU on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @01:02PM (#23692176)
/r/fullcommunism is also quarantined though. I'm honestly a little surprised it didn't get banned in this wave. And late stage capitalism has had a bunch of mod coups and stuff over the years that have negatively affected the quality of the sub.
Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by fernandotakai on Monday June 29, 2020 @01:50PM (#23680117)
the donald users are already on a another site (which i won't link because i do not remember the url lol) and have been for a while now.
Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by ComputerGuru on Monday June 29, 2020 @06:49PM (#23684361)
For posterity’s sake, I believe the commenter is referring to thedonald.win, which I’m purposely leaving un-linkified.
Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by SmokeyHamster on Monday June 29, 2020 @06:22PM (#23684032)
Oh yeah. They began advertising thedonald.win last year.
Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by three_seagrass on Monday June 29, 2020 @02:10PM (#23680387)
The current mods killed the_donald.

The mods, not the admins, made it so that only a shortlist of approved users could post content in the subreddit.

It was likely a move to push the community somewhere else.

Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by tick_tock_tick on Monday June 29, 2020 @02:34PM (#23680752)
The current mods were appointed by the admins....
Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by three_seagrass on Monday June 29, 2020 @04:08PM (#23682089)
No they weren't. The admins kept the original mods and were trying to work with them.

The admins even said as much when explaining the ban.

Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by SmokeyHamster on Monday June 29, 2020 @06:28PM (#23684108)
>The mods, not the admins, made it so that only a shortlist of approved users could post content in the subreddit.

Admins banned virtually all the mods, without warning or explanation, so the remaining mod(s) had no choice but to lock the sub.

One of the tricks leftist groups like to do is they'll brigade right-leaning subs, post a ton of "offensive" content, then before the mods can remove it, they'll screenshot it, post it up on a blog, and then alert the admins to trick them into banning the sub. That's how they got the sub quarantined.

With only one or two mods left, they couldn't properly police the sub anymore, which had close to a million subscribers and tens of thousands of active posters at any given hour. Put yourself in their shoes. If it was the choice between accept random unknown (but admin approved) users as moderators, or lock the sub, what would you do?

Of course you'd lock the sub. It was just an attempt at a soft-takeover. Better it be outright banned than lobotomized by replacing its mods with Reddit users who likely hate Trump.

Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by fernandotakai on Monday June 29, 2020 @01:52PM (#23680135)
also banned gendercritical, which was an extreme left, radical feminist (as in, Valerie Solanas radical feminism) board.
Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by Miner49er on Monday June 29, 2020 @01:54PM (#23680170)
Gendercritical was not "extreme left". It was an anti-trans (TERF) subreddit hated by actual leftist subs.
Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by cylon13 on Monday June 29, 2020 @02:21PM (#23680563)
Confusion caused by attempting to sort human beliefs in a one-dimensional space strikes again! To be clear I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you or the parent poster, just commenting on the ambiguity.
Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by makomk on Monday June 29, 2020 @04:29PM (#23682455)
TERFs falling out of favour with the "actual leftist subs" is also a relatively new thing... they used to be strongly TERF apologist at the very least, if not actively and heavily promoting them in the case of several of the more feminist-aligned ones. Think last few years. This isn't just a Reddit thing either; questioning their ties to the UK's main left-wing political party (which has actually influenced our laws for the worse) used to be way outside the range of acceptable leftism, but has suddenly become a controversial hot topic in the last few months.
Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by u320 on Monday June 29, 2020 @02:11PM (#23680404)
Just because something is hated by most of the left doesn't make it "not left".
Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by abellerose on Monday June 29, 2020 @02:16PM (#23680472)
As a trans person myself. All that subreddit did was target hate towards trans people. Anyone care to elaborate on what else they did with actual proof?
Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by nullc on Monday June 29, 2020 @02:51PM (#23681009)
Asking for actual proof now is a bit of a tall bar since the subreddit is no longer accessible!
Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by abellerose on Monday June 29, 2020 @03:02PM (#23681179)
Oh I'm sorry that you don't know of https://archive.org/web
Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by brailsafe on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @06:28AM (#23688638)
Seems a bit strange that you'd simultaneously ask for proof and expect others to accept your premise as fact without also providing something more substantive than "I'm X so therefore I'm an authority on Y"
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Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by duskwuff on Monday June 29, 2020 @03:35PM (#23681599)
"Skeptical of gender" is a cover phrase for "denying the existence of trans people". So, yes.
Re:Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r... by empthought on Monday June 29, 2020 @04:53PM (#23682873)
Are you skeptical of the shahada? If you are skeptical of the shahada, does this mean you deny the existence of Muslim people?

Are you skeptical of the Nicene creed? If you are skeptical of the Nicene creed, does this mean you deny the existence of Christian people?

Are you skeptical of body thetans? If you are skeptical of body thetans, does this mean you deny the existence of Scientologists?

Are you skeptical of climate change? If you are skeptical of climate change, does this mean you deny the existence of climatologists?