Zero-sum thinking on immigration will make America poorer

Re:Zero-sum thinking on immigration will make America poorer by arcticbull on Monday June 29, 2020 @12:32AM (#23674367)

Sure, the Soviet Union. A government literally made inequality go away with the stroke of a pen. Ideal, of course not. Recommended? Definitely not. However, it's clear and self-evident that the US government allows wealthy people to keep their wealth. A wealth tax would solve that problem, for instance. Again, without advocating, I'm just saying that wealth and wealth inequality exist at the whim of the ruling class. I'm not sure I could come up with a counter-example that didn't involve a contrived crypto-ancap utopia.

The fact that income and wealth inequality are different in different countries is proof in and of itself.

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Re:Zero-sum thinking on immigration will make America poorer by jen20 on Monday June 29, 2020 @01:12AM (#23674553)

> A government literally made inequality go away with the stroke of a pen.

This is an _incredibly_ rose-tinted view of the Soviet Union. I would suggest researching Waldsiedlung as a starting point.

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Re:Zero-sum thinking on immigration will make America poorer by arcticbull on Monday June 29, 2020 @11:14AM (#23678333)

Why would that be rose-tinted? I believe in the value of inequality, to a point. Where I disagree with the status quo is I don't think the top end should be effectively unlimited, and I think the bottom end should be a lot higher.

However to say that government policy can't substantially reduce inequality is patently absurd. The government has the power to take things from people, every year, in taxes.

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Re:Zero-sum thinking on immigration will make America poorer by kofejnik on Monday June 29, 2020 @02:10AM (#23674850)

> Sure, the Soviet Union. A government literally made inequality go away with the stroke of a pen.

You have no idea what you're talking about, just stop. Source: born in USSR

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