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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by svnpenn on Sunday June 28, 2020 @08:36PM (#23673243)
Does anyone know of a small Emacs distribution? I would like to get into Emacs, but its hard to justify 114 MB:

https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/emacs-26

Versus Vim 18 MB:

https://github.com/vim/vim-win32-installer/releases

Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by dmd on Sunday June 28, 2020 @08:54PM (#23673317)
Justify in terms of what, exactly? At current disk prices, 114 megabytes costs less than a third of a US penny. Even at minimum wage, you'd make that in under a second.
Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by svnpenn on Sunday June 28, 2020 @09:04PM (#23673384)
surely someone of your pedigree can understand, not everything is about money. Why should I use something 6 times larger? Without a benefit thats just software bloat from where I sit. and GNU is known for this, from glibc on up.
Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by ramraj07 on Monday June 29, 2020 @03:44AM (#23675407)
Unless you are actually running out of space, why is that even a criteria? Unless two programs are exactly feature-paired, why would you even think about how much storage they take up? The only explanation is that your work has made you think about space taken by programs for legitimate reasons and you are unable to think outside that mindset - when the cheapest phones ship with 50-100x more space than that, when a single minute of video from a regular persons phone could take up this much space, when the regular user consumes 10x that bandwidth every day in the internet? Who cares if it's 100 MB?
Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by andai on Sunday June 28, 2020 @09:29PM (#23673527)
Recently went through some GNU and BSD source code and the difference in file size was quite dramatic. GNU's really doing its own thing :)
Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by anamexis on Sunday June 28, 2020 @09:28PM (#23673523)
I think the key question is, what is it about?
Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by Dylan16807 on Monday June 29, 2020 @01:01AM (#23674505)
This is a tangent, but I wish storage was that simple. Too many devices come with non-expandable storage and don't have very big options to start with, even if you're willing to pay well above the normal rate.
Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by komali2 on Sunday June 28, 2020 @09:43PM (#23673600)
I don't know of a "small" Emacs distribution.

You can have Vim in Emacs with Evil Mode. IMO Emacs bindings are terrible no matter what and modal editing saved my career from an early death by wrist injury. But on top of Vim bindings you also get an entire, programmable IDE. I guess it's kinda big but like, so are most IDEs? But you can get many features at a lighter weight than other ones.

Like yea if literally the only thing you wanna do is edit plain text and maybe at most have syntax highlighting, use plain old vim with some .vimrc setup. If you're finding yourself installing plugins to make vim be more like an IDE, at that point, just install an IDE, and no IDE handles vim bindings better than Emacs imo (and this is from extensive testing), so, there, use Emacs.

Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by clojureyoureyes on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @10:20AM (#23690260)
> and modal editing saved my career from an early death by wrist injury

The fun thing is I stopped experiencing wrist pain after I switched from Vim to Emacs (with ±native bindings), partly because I moved Ctrl to Caps almost instantly, partly because I stopped using a lot 3rd party apps (e.g. XMPP/IRC clients) which required mouse.

Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by komali2 on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @12:29PM (#23691795)
Oh interesting - the Ctrl caps change was something I picked up when first playing with emacs (before I knew any vim) and it was a game changer for me, even though I was just using mostly native vscode bindings at that time. I used to think even if I didn't end up switching to emacs, it'd always at least have given me that.
Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by ngcc_hk on Monday June 29, 2020 @02:20AM (#23674895)
Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by komali2 on Monday June 29, 2020 @11:17AM (#23678375)
I use this now. It "just works" ™©®

Check out the develop branch though. Last I checked master was waaaay behind.

Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by gopiandcode on Monday June 29, 2020 @07:20AM (#23676481)
Good point, although it's also hard to justify Vim's 18MB vs Ed's 52K.

Look's like Vim is just too bloated for the modern minimalism focused user.

Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by barrkel on Sunday June 28, 2020 @10:14PM (#23673754)
Red Dead Redemption 2 on PC is about 150,000 MB.

I have a little bit of difficulty justifying that on my SSD main drive.

114 MB for what is effectively an IDE for the long tail of programming languages is very easy to justify.

Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by throwqqq on Sunday June 28, 2020 @08:46PM (#23673284)
That's 0.005 usd of hard drives. There is literally no one in the world who could notice the difference.