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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by saagarjha on Sunday June 28, 2020 @07:39PM (#23672917)
> so emacs is doomed to being a mediocre niche text editor with unrealized potential to become a household name

Emacs is absolutely a household name, at least in the world of text editors…

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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by lgessler on Sunday June 28, 2020 @07:40PM (#23672925)
I'd venture that it's not among rank-and-file software developers, though.
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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by nsl73 on Sunday June 28, 2020 @07:47PM (#23672968)
I’m a software developer, that commonly talks about software development with a diverse group of software developers.

I’ve never had a conversation with a software developer where they didn’t know what vim or emacs are.

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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by lgessler on Sunday June 28, 2020 @07:56PM (#23673025)
I just suspect that people here on HN are coming from the upper portions of the software developer spectrum in terms of experience, aptitude, enthusiasm, and training--there are plenty of other people in the world who do software development but lack some of those things. For my own part, I graduated with a bachelors in computer science having only heard Emacs mentioned once in a course (at the beginning of the second course in the intro sequence) by a particularly enthusiastic professor, and I never heard anyone talking about Vim or Emacs at my first job, where everyone more or less had to work exclusively with Visual Studio and an in-house IDE.
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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by saagarjha on Sunday June 28, 2020 @08:03PM (#23673065)
Anyone that knows what vi is almost certainly knows what emacs is.
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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by totetsu on Sunday June 28, 2020 @08:18PM (#23673152)
I'd say there is a fair few beginner Linux users who have followed a tutorial on OMGUbuntu or stackexchange who know of VI but will never hear of emacs.
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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by nordsieck on Sunday June 28, 2020 @08:34PM (#23673231)
> I'd say there is a fair few beginner Linux users who have followed a tutorial on OMGUbuntu or stackexchange who know of VI but will never hear of emacs.

Ok.

But of those people who stick with vi for more than 6 months, how many of them have yet to hear of emacs at that point? Maybe 5%?

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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by bitwize on Sunday June 28, 2020 @10:41PM (#23673876)
The software developers I asspciate with today in the enterprise world fall in one of two camps:

1) Emacs? What is that? Looks like it came out before I was born. No thank you, I need something modern.

2) Emacs? That's still around?! I remember that from my Vax days...

Either way, few of them would countenance the idea of using Emacs to do professional software development in 2020. The vast, vast majority of developers out there use either a large feature-rich IDE like Visual Studio, IntelliJ, or Eclipse... or they use Visual Studio Code.

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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by komali2 on Sunday June 28, 2020 @09:30PM (#23673537)
https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019#technology-_-...

4.5%. So not many but it's certainly "among."

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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by grzm on Sunday June 28, 2020 @09:32PM (#23673543)
That's those who use Emacs, not those who know what it is.
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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by komali2 on Sunday June 28, 2020 @09:48PM (#23673632)
Surely the number of people who know what it is is higher than those who use it?
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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by grzm on Sunday June 28, 2020 @09:52PM (#23673657)
My post was mostly a response to "not many".
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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by sgillen on Sunday June 28, 2020 @07:49PM (#23672978)
Really? I don't think I've ever met a software developer that didn't know what vim and emacs were.
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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by billwear on Sunday June 28, 2020 @08:36PM (#23673240)
my entire MAAS development team at Canonical are emacs users. we also have those who use vi or even visual studio. it's all about what works for you, i guess.
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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by na85 on Sunday June 28, 2020 @07:40PM (#23672923)
I mean household name in the same class as MS Office.
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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by fwip on Sunday June 28, 2020 @07:44PM (#23672947)
Are there any text editors that are? Maybe Notepad or Notes.app because they come preinstalled?
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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by trenchgun on Monday June 29, 2020 @03:56PM (#23681897)
VScode is.
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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by fwip on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @01:09AM (#23686757)
The same class as Office?

My teachers in highschool knew what Office was and how to use it. I doubt most teachers now have heard the name VS code and don't know why they'd want it.

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Re:Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode by _emacsomancer_ on Monday June 29, 2020 @08:15PM (#23685073)
In 20 years, no-one will remember VScode, but Emacs will still be around.
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