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Re:The World Doesn’t Need a New Gigantic Particle Collider by dnautics on Sunday June 28, 2020 @01:58PM (#23670664)
Sabine's point is rooted in physics. It's that there are no hypotheses that are tested by the proposed energy levels of these colliders. It's just a fishing expedition. Quite frankly, having seen tons of fishing expeditions in biology (which individually cost way less, on the order of 100k to 1M), not doing it is the correct decision. Come up with a testable hypothesis that the collider will address, then build it.

Here's the result of just one of the fishing expeditions I saw (Dr Murray is a saint: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/pro.2339)

Re:The World Doesn’t Need a New Gigantic Particle Collider by jacquesm on Sunday June 28, 2020 @07:43PM (#23672939)
So far the fishing expeditions in physics have been extraordinarily fruitful, both in the discovery of behavior that had not been predicted as well as in confirmation of theoretical results. But we are still far away from a UFT and there is a lot of knowledge that is still to be discovered in this field. On the total budget that humanity spends annually on far less productive things (such as weaponry) this is a small drop in the bucket. Let's see where it leads and if it turns out to be a dead end then we can all it a day. But as long as every new level of energy seems to give more and novel insight I'd much rather continue one step too far than to call it a day and maybe miss out on something crucial that we just had not thought of yet.

And even no result is a valid result!

Re:The World Doesn’t Need a New Gigantic Particle Collider by dnautics on Monday June 29, 2020 @03:08AM (#23675150)
What fishing expeditions are you talking about? Every major physics construction project to date has been justified by at least one, maybe more specific expected result that is theoretically predicted. There are a handful of we don't know things going on, like keeping a staff on hand for Voyager probes, but the main project was a smashing success.
Re:The World Doesn’t Need a New Gigantic Particle Collider by wespiser_2018 on Sunday June 28, 2020 @09:20PM (#23673486)
former Biologist fisherman, can confirm, a hypothesis helps :)