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Re:Palm – The best small phone for minimalists, athletes, an... by pjmlp on Saturday June 27, 2020 @08:57AM (#23661555)
Apple is the exception, as they don't rely on 3rd party OEMs.

It would be 100% like everyone else had Apple allowed for iOS based OEM devices.

Indeed, but that is only thanks to IBM's failure to close back the PC and only applies to desktop and server devices.

Even Microsoft isn't able to do much regarding laptops and Windows tablets, and was forced to start their own Surface line.

But yes, they still do much better than Google, because Google just doesn't care.

Project Trent would have been the opportunity to change contracts for accessing Google services, and they just kept everything regarding OEMs as before.

The proof that they don't really care is the support for their own Pixel devices.

However as mentioned before, not everyone on this planet can afford to be an Apple customer and OS updates aren't certainly on their daily worries.

Re:Palm – The best small phone for minimalists, athletes, an... by scarface74 on Saturday June 27, 2020 @09:19AM (#23661690)
Apple is the exception, as they don't rely on 3rd party OEMs.

Microsoft however does allow 3rd party OEMs for Windows and PCs don’t have that issue. MS makes sure the most popular or even some obscure hardware is supported.

Even Microsoft isn't able to do much regarding laptops and Windows tablets, and was forced to start their own Surface line.

I have an 11 year old Dell E6500 Core 2 Duo 2.66Ghz running Windows 10 perfectly.

Re:Palm – The best small phone for minimalists, athletes, an... by Intermernet on Saturday June 27, 2020 @11:20AM (#23662370)
My 2007 Toshiba laptop recently died (not sure why, I'm gonna let the old dog die gracefully). It had been upgraded over the years with more RAM and an SSD and it ran beautifully on Windows 10 for the last few years.

I'm not sure why people don't admit that Windows does backwards compatibility well. Windows has many issues, but running well on old hardware isn't one of them.

Re:Palm – The best small phone for minimalists, athletes, an... by pjmlp on Saturday June 27, 2020 @11:37AM (#23662477)
I have an Asus laptop from 2009 sold with Windows 7 and running Windows 10 currently, except it has an additional cooling fan running all the time, because only the original customized Windows 7 with Asus drivers does the power management properly.

Any other Windows 7 version, or more recent versions, the internal fan is not able to make for the generated heat due to missing power management settings.

So I just got used to the noise of having two fans running all the time when I need to do something with that laptop, which has long lost the laptop capability, but hey it runs Windows 10.

Re:Palm – The best small phone for minimalists, athletes, an... by pjmlp on Saturday June 27, 2020 @11:31AM (#23662432)
Lucky you, I have had several laptops that don't work without OEM drivers and require the explicit Windows version that was sold with the laptop.

As an example, the webcam drivers and power management settings that without OEM drivers will just fry the CPU until the security takes over and forces a hard shutdown.

Re:Palm – The best small phone for minimalists, athletes, an... by scarface74 on Saturday June 27, 2020 @11:49AM (#23662553)
It was a business Dell and was high end at the time - 8GB RAM, Gigabit Ethernet, 1920x1200 display.
Re:Palm – The best small phone for minimalists, athletes, an... by pjmlp on Saturday June 27, 2020 @02:40PM (#23663707)
Yeah, business Dell have much better support story.