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Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by oh_sigh on Friday June 26, 2020 @08:59AM (#23651451)
Almost all deaths deep sea fishing are from mistakes. Many deaths from policing are people intentionally trying to kill you.

Maybe that comes into play. With deep sea fishing , if you're careful enough, you can drastically lower the death rate - it's in your hands. Not so with policing.

Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by chrisbennet on Friday June 26, 2020 @09:21AM (#23651644)
My Dad was a lobsterman for 12 years and just being careful is not enough to "drastically lower your death rate" for a profession fisherman unfortunately.

You can't control how long you've been awake. You can't control a rogue wave the sweeps you off the tail of the boat. Professional fisherman have enormous respect for the sea.

Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by oh_sigh on Friday June 26, 2020 @01:17PM (#23654399)
You can control your wakefulness with certain drugs that are very common on commercial fishing boats.

You can improve your odds of not being overswept by using your tethers appropriately and wearing proper protective gear which many people forego because it's less comfortable to work in.

Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by chrisbennet on Friday June 26, 2020 @01:27PM (#23654520)
I hadn’t thought of that but you’re right.
Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by codr7 on Friday June 26, 2020 @09:08AM (#23651536)
Are they really? It seems likely to me that many are simply reacting to being cornered and threatened. Taking the behavior of the police out of the equation makes the answer useless.
Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by oh_sigh on Friday June 26, 2020 @09:15AM (#23651589)
A major part of their job is arresting people who usually don't want to be arrested. Yes, I'm sure some police over-escalate a situation and end up dead for it, but that's probably not the norm.
Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by codr7 on Friday June 26, 2020 @09:22AM (#23651652)
Probably not? It's not like there's a lack of evidence out there now that everyone has a camera in their pocket.

From what I've seen it looks highly likely that their behavior is a big part of the problem.

Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by oh_sigh on Friday June 26, 2020 @01:15PM (#23654383)
Are you the type of person who thinks the world is much more violent today than it was 50 years ago?
Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by codr7 on Monday June 29, 2020 @09:02AM (#23677174)
I am me, period. Put me in whatever box you feel like.

I honestly have no idea if policing has gotten more violent or if it's just more visible now. I would guess both. But it doesn't really matter, does it? It's still a major issue that we need to fix somehow.