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Re:Perceptions of musical octaves are learned, not wired in ... by TheOtherHobbes on Thursday June 25, 2020 @05:21AM (#23638586)
Bells, gongs, drums, and other instruments that can be a modelled with a 2D surface that vibrates in an assortment of simultaneous modes are semi-harmonic.

Pipes and strings are better modelled by a 1D resonator, which is more likely to allow integer overtones - although they can still have inharmonic elements due to stiffness and - in the case of orchestral strings - rotation caused by the scraping bow.

None of which changes the fact that octaves are primary in any instrument which produces a range of pitches with a clear and reasonably sustained fundamental.

In fact researchers rely on the concept of pitch chroma/pitch class to distinguish between absolute frequency. Humans reliably hear the octave/not octave distinction, as do some animals. Obviously the animals aren't musically trained.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5479468/

But it's not enough to say that "octave perceptions are learned." In this experiment it's more likely that octave use is learned in musical contexts.

There's a huge difference between saying that someone can't hear octave relationships at all, and that they can hear them perfectly clearly, they just don't find them culturally relevant - perhaps because their music theory is built on a grid of absolute pitches, and not on a repeating pattern of pitches.

Re:Perceptions of musical octaves are learned, not wired in ... by dr_dshiv on Thursday June 25, 2020 @09:51AM (#23640728)
Also worthwhile to point out that brainwave coupling is based on "octaves" (i.e., roughly speaking -- gamma is double frequency of beta, which is double alpha, which is double theta, which is double delta....)