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Re:Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writ... by chiefalchemist on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @07:29PM (#23635047)
Two things to add:

1) Agreed. Writing the code is the easy part. Determining and defining what to build? That's the magic.

2) In the wrong hands, making things too easy can be detrimental. First, there's add too much, simply because you can. For instance, WordPress n00bs are notorious for adding too many plugins. Why? Because they can.

The second reason is, changing too soon without enough data, without enough user input. Yes, iteration is helpdul. But if it's borderline pivoting then that's likely to end badly. Again, in the wrong hands.

Re:Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writ... by ako on Thursday June 25, 2020 @01:58AM (#23637342)
Agreed on 2), software development has become too easy, look at all the rubish people are putting online and in the appstores.

Javascript, java and python have made it too easy to write software. Would be better to return back to the days when everything was written in C and Assembly.

/s

Re:Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writ... by chiefalchemist on Thursday June 25, 2020 @06:16AM (#23638929)
I wasn't talkind about engineerss. I was talking about no-code and the type of people who use such tools. That is, typically, no training, no understanding. They don't understand "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."

I'm not knocking Honeycode and similar. I think they're great. But they are simply tools. They are at their best when they are paired with a user with some understanding and sufficient knowledge.

Re:Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writ... by exclusiv on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @07:49PM (#23635205)
To add to that - Determining and defining what to build is not magic unless you write simple and elegant code that delivers on-time and on-budget.

You can have all the magic in the world upfront with planning and have it fail spectacularly without the right execution that is accurate, on-time and on-budget.

Re:Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writ... by chiefalchemist on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @08:57PM (#23635657)
That's true. Until you realize that the accurate execution that was on time and on budget actually built something that didn't actuslly meet the business needs. Then what?

Yes. Execution matters. But it's only as good as understanding the target. Miss that target (read: meet biz needs) and no one will say "Yeah. But it was great execution."

Re:Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writ... by exclusiv on Friday June 26, 2020 @08:45PM (#23658581)
True. I just see projects fail more often than not due to time/budget and/or shit code. Rarely do I see it fail because what was built didn't meet the business needs.

Although if you're in start-ups, they plan and then build terrible products all the time so the attention to upfront planning and the business needs is way more important in that realm.