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Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by churchillracist on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @04:12AM (#23625438)
> Maybe because during ramadan terrorist attacks are up significantly and perpetrated by people looking lik you in an outstanding proportion?

Where did you study these statistics? And how do you know what "people looking lik you" is given that the author didn't post his/her photograph?

> Can't stand the arrogant victim-posing tone of this article.

Is there a different possible explanation for why you can't stand it? Perhaps something more internal to yourself?

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Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by iso1631 on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @04:38AM (#23625618)
> Unless you're convinced 9/11 and the Orlando terrorist attacks were inside jobs of course...

Ramadam 2001 started on Nov 16th

The deadliest mass shooting since the Greenwood Massacre 100 years ago was the Las Vegas one in October 2017, committed by a white male. Ramadan was in June that year.

Indeed the vast majority of mass shootings in the developed world are committed by white Americans.

Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by Thomas812 on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @04:41AM (#23625636)
If you actually read books on terrorism you'd know it is about ideology, a political cause or movement.

The Las Vegas mass shooter had absolutely none of those but yeah just keep making things up.

Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by iso1631 on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @05:36AM (#23625944)
Most recent terrorist attack in the US was the 2019 El Paso attacks, which was a White American Male who killed 23 people

Before that another white american male in Poway (and an attack on a mosque earlier than that), another in the Pittsburgh synagogue, the Blaze Bernstein shooting, and if you don't include the ones where nobody died - the mail bombing attempts aimed at people like Obama and Biden

One thing all these terrorist attacks on american soil have in common? The perpetrator was a white american male.

This doesn't mean that all white american males are terrorists, but if we were to take the attitude that many have towards Muslims, white american males are at best supporters of terrorism.

Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by enriquto on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @02:40PM (#23632090)
> One thing all these terrorist attacks on american soil have in common? The perpetrator was a white american male.

I do not see why you introduce the race issue here. All the terrorist attacks in the USA after 1995 (last unabomber kill) have been performed by far-right extremists, and this includes islamists and american conservative nationalists. Terrorism in america is clearly a matter of politics, not of race.

Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by iso1631 on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @03:19PM (#23632601)
> I do not see why you introduce the race issue here.

The gist of the article is that the person was selected for this treatment because he wasn't white

The gist of the post was that's fine, because all terrorists are brown

The accuracy is that if you wanted to select people based likely to commit a terrorist attack in the US on appearance, you're looking for

1) Male

2) White

3) American

Clearly I don't think that means all White Male Americans are terrorists, but that highlights the absurdity of the anti-muslim movements that balooned 20 years ago and are still prevalent in western discourse.

Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by drumhead on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @04:31AM (#23625545)
So the only cause they had to detain him was that he was the wrong colour. Reminds me of that that scene in Family Guy with the colour chart.
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Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by drumhead on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @04:48AM (#23625674)
So you're confirming that colour was the only justification to detain him?
Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by reallydontask on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @04:44AM (#23625664)
so all you need to do is to convince/coerce somebody from a historically non-involved profile and it's all plain sailing for the terrorists ...
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Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by reallydontask on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @06:21AM (#23626257)
They have tried in the past [0]

It's also worth bearing in mind the rather low number of terrorist attacks that involve planes.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindawi_affair

Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by reallydontask on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @04:33AM (#23625561)
How many of those were by Indian terrorists?
Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by Thomas812 on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @04:39AM (#23625623)
He was arrested because Indians and Pakistani/other Muslims from countries of the area people are very similar looking. And in that region of the world attacks are up during ramadan.
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Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by netsharc on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @07:13AM (#23626562)
I think he's trying to defend TSA's racial profiling, but well, in the eyes of the average TSA agent, aren't "all brown people are the same"? And to them, the "brown people" are the terrorists?

The current trend is for rightwing, white supremacy/incel extremism, so TSA racial profiling is dangerous because they might accidentally let a Nazi with guns on a plane, but grandparent commenter is not wrong, that the TSA are myopic...

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Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by throwaway4666 on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @04:59AM (#23625744)
Most terrorist attacks in the west are done by alt-righters though
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Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by throwaway4666 on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @05:11AM (#23625806)
It's not that hard to look up and prove you wrong mate:

https://www.euractiv.com/section/justice-home-affairs/news/f...

>“In 2018, far-right terrorist attacks accounted for 17.2% of terrorist incidents in the West. By contrast, attacks by Islamist groups accounted for 6.8% of attacks, and attacks not attributed to any group accounted for 62.8% of incidents in the West,” the report has found.

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Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by throwaway4666 on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @05:54AM (#23626072)
You're grasping at straws here. How do you even determine the size of the 'groups'?
Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by enriquto on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @05:27AM (#23625888)
Islamists are also right wing extremists. They are just as nuts as right wing extremists from other religions. Not sure why you need so much to separate their acts of terror. It's just insane people who have imaginary friends on the sky that guide them to kill real people.
Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by Thomas812 on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @05:59AM (#23626103)
Are you pretending that anti-lgbt or antisemitic rhetoric is not present in the left?

Have you read a single recent history book about the 20th century?

Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by enriquto on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @06:39AM (#23626353)
Who's talking about the left here? I did not say anything about "the left", and much less pretend anything about them.

I just said that islamists are right wing extremists, and they do themselves say it so. Their main fight is precisely against the left-induced degeneracy of society.

Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by churchillracist on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @04:55AM (#23625721)
> you can just open Wikipedia

> biggest terrorist attacks on US soil,

Ok. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States

What you said, "during ramadan terrorist attacks are up significantly", does not line up with the source you asked to look at. Also what does "looks Indian, Pakistani, or anything between middle east and India." even mean? You do realize the spectrum of that population range envelopes the entirety of the human race.

Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by Thomas812 on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @05:04AM (#23625768)
It's funny because the very link you pasted illustrates perfectly that in the last 30 years middle easterners and Muslims are hugely over represented among the deadliest attacks.

Ah yes, let's pretend you can't tell someone is from south Asia or Caucasian.

Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by churchillracist on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @05:30AM (#23625912)
> Ah yes, let's pretend you can't tell someone is from south Asia or Caucasian.

First of all, you previously included the Middle East. And yes, I would not be able to determine ethnicity with certainty given the significant variation. Would you define Jason Mantzoukas as Caucasian? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JtamJmtc0g

Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by Thomas812 on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @06:11AM (#23626184)
That's precisely why stopping someone is not a conviction by court. It's just a step to check that the individual doesn't have any forbidden materials in his clothing.
Re:Don’t Fly During Ramadan (2013) by john4532452 on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @05:14AM (#23625820)
> Ah yes, let's pretend you can't tell someone is from south Asia or Caucasian.

Its not about the way people look, its about their belief, Islam prohibits very seriously about blasphemy and that's why even the intelligent people can not help but comply. The same is not true about other religions.