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Re:The End of OS X by fsflover on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @04:22PM (#23619721)
> users don't care. They don't know what a browser is, what a client is, or an URL or URI or address bar.

All true but irrelevant. The problem is that artificial lack of choice prevents competition and innovation. Microsoft from the 90s is here again. And users don’t care, again.

I do not count another UI as a new browser. It should be different under the hood.

Re:The End of OS X by oneplane on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @04:49PM (#23620062)
> I do not count another UI as a new browser. It should be different under the hood.

Can you imagine any general user ever repeating that? I can't. As those users woud say: nobody cares.

I personally would care, but I'm not the main marketed target for Apple. I also care more about getting stuff done than what engine my browser uses.

Re:The End of OS X by kelnos on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @05:34PM (#23620621)
It doesn't matter if a general user would know about this stuff. The point is that they are being hurt by lack of competition and don't even know it. Even if they wanted to stick with Safari on iOS, that version of Safari would likely be better and have more features if it were forced to experience some competition.

This is why healthy competition and anti-trust actually matters. It's not because your average user cares about the details, it's because they're being impacted even when they don't know it.

This subthread has a fairly trivial example of this, but when you get into right-to-repair it becomes even more important. Your average consumer could be spending a lot less money to have a much better experience. The fact that they don't know about that is part of the problem; lack of knowledge doesn't make the issue irrelevant.

And we don't even need to get into the environmental arguments around reducing waste to consider this aspect of the issue.