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Re:The End of OS X by davedx on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @03:58PM (#23619429)
I use Safari as my main browser now due to the password generation/sharing with my iPhone. It's a killer feature for me.
Re:The End of OS X by jnwatson on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @04:03PM (#23619501)
That's a commodity feature at this point.
Re:The End of OS X by Diesel555 on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @11:57PM (#23623915)
Assumptions: 1) All my devices are Apple 2) I'm not planning on leaving Apple

For all the negative replies I wonder how many people actually have used Keychain. It's very good. I tried onePassword, google's, and firefox's, but none integrates as well among all my devices and with zero effort in the OS as keychain. Anyone leaving negative comments about keychain, at least point out that you've given it the ol' try in the Apple Ecosystem.

Or we have different assumptions and you have devices outside the Apple ecosystem or don't want to be tied to it therefore the benefits I see to keychain don't apply to you.

Also the WWDC yesterday has some cool new features about bad passwords (But I think other password managers already do this).

Re:The End of OS X by darkteflon on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @08:10PM (#23622159)
Pray you never have to bulk export your passwords. It is extremely painful.
Re:The End of OS X by faemir on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @04:00PM (#23619462)
Firefox does this too FYI
Re:The End of OS X by davedx on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @03:13AM (#23625000)
I like Firefox but I don't use it on my iPhone. I use the Apple pw manager to log into websites on both phone/laptop a lot. The syncing to my iPhone is great.
Re:The End of OS X by IOT_Apprentice on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @06:16PM (#23621056)
As does chrome and edge.
Re:The End of OS X by viklove on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @04:02PM (#23619485)
Almost every browser has this feature...
Re:The End of OS X by danaris on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @05:23PM (#23620496)
But "almost every browser" doesn't sync your saved passwords seamlessly between devices (mobile and desktop) with an end-to-end encrypted database, and automatically offer to autofill them, with the autofill itself protected by Touch ID/Face ID on the devices that support those.
Re:The End of OS X by edjrage on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @05:49PM (#23620788)
For one, Bitwarden does all of that and more (I guess except the Face ID thing, but I don't really want that so I'd disable it anyway). It has web, mobile and desktop apps, and browser extensions. All available in the free plan. Oh, and it's open source and self-hostable.

https://bitwarden.com/

(Not affiliated with it, just a pretty happy (free) user!)

Re:The End of OS X by danaris on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @06:06PM (#23620967)
Neat, and glad to know about it! I've actually been surprised (and a little frustrated) that there haven't been any alternatives to iCloud Keychain for genuine seamless, e2e encrypted, password management.

Does it actually work the same as Mobile Safari's interface on iOS? Automatically presenting options both for creating and autofilling passwords on webpages? (If it can do that in iOS Firefox, I might consider it...I've been using desktop Firefox for a while because of some bizarre idiosyncratic issues I have with Safari on my laptop, that I can't reproduce anywhere else, but are extremely irritating where they do happen...)

Re:The End of OS X by darkteflon on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @08:15PM (#23622218)
Yes, it does. The integration with both Safari and Firefox on iOS is excellent. In Settings -> Passwords & Accounts -> Autofill Passwords you just change the backend from iCloud Keychain to Bitwarden, then it otherwise behaves substantially the same.

A big benefit of switching to Bitwarden is that you can also get it up and running on non-Apple machines. Kicking myself for not doing it earlier.

Just be aware that bulk exporting your passwords from iCloud Keychain is non-trivial.

Re:The End of OS X by rrrrrrrrrrrryan on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @09:06PM (#23622691)
Lastpass does this, but works with apps as well. Third party password managers are absolutely underrated, because most of them are truly cross-platform.

If you create a Netflix account on your desktop in Chrome, it can generate a password for you, or auto-grab whatever password you typed in, and will autofill that password when you open the Netflix app on your phone. (Based on a built-in association between "netflix.com" and the Netflix android app.)

Super handy feature when you get a new mobile device and need to get logged in to all your apps for the first time.

Re:The End of OS X by lisnake on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @08:40PM (#23622468)
Chrome does that. If you set a passphrase for sync, then your data is e2e encrypted.

https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/165139

Re:The End of OS X by webmobdev on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @04:07PM (#23619548)
Use a password manager. It's safer than trusting Apple or Google who are after your personal data.
Re:The End of OS X by danaris on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @05:22PM (#23620478)
Apple never gets your saved login credentials. iCloud Keychain is end-to-end encrypted, and Apple hasn't been shy about advertising that fact.
Re:The End of OS X by webmobdev on Sunday June 28, 2020 @05:29AM (#23667658)
> Apple never gets your saved login credentials.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that. They are a part of PRISM.

Re:The End of OS X by kn0where on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @04:13PM (#23619623)
Also worth noting is that with recent iOS versions, third party password managers are recognized at the OS level, and can be used with the same seamlessness as iCloud Keychain.
Re:The End of OS X by toomuchtodo on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @04:24PM (#23619739)
Apple and Google aren't going to sell users' login credentials, and if law enforcement is requesting information, they will go directly to the provider who contains your data they're seeking.