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Re:Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for ... by askafriend on Monday June 22, 2020 @11:08PM (#23609542)
1. I stated quarterly numbers off the top of my head instead of yearly numbers. This mistake doesn't change my point at all at Apple scale - it's a negligible amount of savings relative to the risk. Companies of this scale don't make ecosystem level shifts without a reason far far better than "we can _maybe_ increase yearly profits by 1% (1/100 * 100) sometime in the future". It's just not relevant to bring that up as a primary motivation given what we're talking about.

2. I think you actually missed the point of the conversation. OP said "that's still an insane amount of additional profit per unit to be extracted" and followed that up with "amazing for Apple and its shareholers."

It is not insane at all. And not amazing. It just comes off as naive to anyone who's worked in these kinds of organizations and been involved in similar decisions.

I think it's hard for some people to comprehend that trying to save $1b a year for its own sake at the scale of an org like Apple can in many cases be a terrible decision.

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Re:Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for ... by lazysloth on Monday June 22, 2020 @11:34PM (#23609658)
You came with your strawman that it was for its own sake, they just stated it was a profitable move and "amazing for Apple and its shareholders, which is hard to refute. OP even said "They don't need to deal with single-supplier hassles and they get much more control over what cores go into their SoC." It seems you are now arguing with your own points.
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Re:Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for ... by askafriend on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @02:25AM (#23610490)
> It seems you are now arguing with your own points.

Half the fun is writing down your own thoughts!

> You came with your strawman that it was for its own sake

That's possible. I saw the emphasis placed differently than you did even though we read the same words. Probably describes the nature of many internet arguments. Happy Monday - I appreciate you pushing me to explain myself. Seems like others were able to get value out of our back and forth.

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Re:Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for ... by imtringued on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @04:20AM (#23611215)
The fact that they are saving $1 billion per year is what makes the transition possible, it's not actually the cause of the transition. They could have done the transition a long time ago if it was just about the money.
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