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Re:Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for ... by Wowfunhappy on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:08PM (#23604586)
...ouch, okay, I just looked up the price of Surface Pro X, and it's $1,000. I forgot how much Microsoft was charging for that thing.

Still, the Pro X has poor graphics. I'm going to assume that a dedicated GPU was being used for Tomb Raider—they would have said something otherwise.

Re:Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for ... by wtallis on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:22PM (#23604881)
> I'm going to assume that a dedicated GPU was being used for Tomb Raider—they would have said something otherwise.

They said exactly what SoC they were using, and it's not known to have spare PCIe lanes lying unused in existing products. Apple pretty much just demoed an x86 game running on an overclocked iPad Pro.

Re:Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for ... by Wowfunhappy on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:26PM (#23604989)
Interesting—are you expecting the Thunderbolt ports in the Developer Transition Kit not to work then? Since it's using a Mac Mini chassis.
Re:Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for ... by josephst18 on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:49PM (#23605421)
Tech specs on the DTK webpage don’t mention Thunderbolt at all, just USB-C (2 ports) and USB-A (2 ports), plus a HDMI 2.0 port.

Makes me wonder how the Pro Display used in the demos was being driven. DisplayPort with USB-C alternate mode?

Re:Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for ... by spoppy on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @07:15AM (#23612431)
They only said the demos were running off Apple silicon, not that they were running off a Mac Mini DTK machine. They probably have other systems more akin to Mac Pros that they use internally.
Re:Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for ... by messe on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @11:39AM (#23615382)
They said the demos were running on an A12Z.
Re:Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for ... by dstaley on Monday June 22, 2020 @07:28PM (#23608178)
It's entirely possible the display was only running at 4K instead of the full, native resolution.
Re:Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for ... by X-Istence on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:47PM (#23605397)
It's not like Apple can't change what connectors are available on the back of the mac Mini. The form factor may not have changed, but the ports available have in the past releases.

Don't be surprised if there is no Thunderbolt 3 at all, but just USB-C.

Re:Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for ... by spoppy on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @07:13AM (#23612416)
It may be that by the time these things are ready for an actual release they can be USB4, which is USB-C + Thunderbolt technology, but no longer Intel exclusive.