Apple WWDC Keynote

Re:Apple WWDC Keynote by lowmemcpu on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:00PM (#23603465)

The additional iOS privacy protections (camera & mic use, and Safari tracking sounds great). The developer self-reporting of data use is great, but can we trust self-reporting? What's to dis-incentivize the developers from lying?

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Re:Apple WWDC Keynote by vadansky on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:18PM (#23603680)

This is why I don't get why people want the AppStore to be like Play Store

In the AppStore if you are a bad actor you get kicked out and need to consider if you want to pay to get another developer license to keep publishing garbage

Compared to Play Store, the AppStore feels a lot cleaner. I don't need a hundred crappy low effort apps hoping I install them so they can steal my data.

I mean, no one is forcing you to buy an iPhone. People act like Apple is ripping your Thinkpad with Arch Linux from your hands and forcing you to use Apple hardware.

I have a laptop running Ubuntu. Fact is I trust my iPhone for online banking more.

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Re:Apple WWDC Keynote by rcMgD2BwE72F on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:57PM (#23604295)

>In the AppStore if you are a bad actor you get kicked out and need to consider if you want to pay to get another developer license to keep publishing garbage

If that is good for the Apple's App Store, shouldn't we want that in other stores? If so, why isn't that policing work done democratically so we can call it "law + law enforcement"?

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Re:Apple WWDC Keynote by vadansky on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:03PM (#23604466)

What's wrong with diversity?

I like having the option of a closed wall "curated" market, and an open install anything market.

I can do my banking on my iPhone and have the password saved on it, while having an Android running F-droid running whatever I want that will never touch my banking info.

What's wrong with having MORE choice. iPhone are no where near market monopoly.

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Re:Apple WWDC Keynote by saagarjha on Monday June 22, 2020 @04:40PM (#23606309)

> I don't need a hundred crappy low effort apps hoping I install them so they can steal my data.

This is sadly still a problem on the App Store :(

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Re:Apple WWDC Keynote by MrQuimico on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:12PM (#23603599)

They can remove the app from the App Store at will. We need to wait to know the details, but it's very likely this will be one of the reasons the will use.

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Re:Apple WWDC Keynote by elevenoh on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:09PM (#23603561)

How would one verify these privacy protections are as they say?

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Re:Apple WWDC Keynote by K0nserv on Monday June 22, 2020 @06:48PM (#23607841)

Monitor outgoing network traffic via mitmproxy/Charles Proxy. It's currently very transparent where and what kind of data leaves a given app, if you look for it.

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Re:Apple WWDC Keynote by graeme on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:51PM (#23604154)

They can review the code in app review

Edit: seems I’m wrong

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Re:Apple WWDC Keynote by richardwhiuk on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:59PM (#23604345)

They don't - they only get the binary. They could be decompiling it, but I doubt it. They can see what functions it calls.

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Re:Apple WWDC Keynote by saagarjha on Monday June 22, 2020 @04:41PM (#23606316)

They do sometimes, if rarely.

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