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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by dvtrn on Sunday June 21, 2020 @09:36PM (#23596736)
Brevity does not need be dismissed as an immediate association or prelude to flame wars, nor does it reflect unsubstantive thinking. While I understand your desire to vanguard the guidelines, and aversion to the messy-nature of the ‘race debate’, dang, I disagree with your conclusion as applied in this case.

Assuming positive intent and being vulnerable enough to ask questions usually will do a lot more to mete out such flame wars than latching on to the first emotional misconstructions of the drafting of ideas.

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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by dang on Monday June 22, 2020 @01:40AM (#23597557)
I don't disagree that much with either you or solarkraft. Moderation is guesswork and not all of these guesses hit the target. FWIW, here is some explanation of the general approach we take.

Brevity is fine. The issue is the expected value of future subthreads: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que....

We have to go by effects, not intent: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

When the topic is flamebait to begin with, the burden is on the commenter to disambiguate: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by dvtrn on Monday June 22, 2020 @09:44AM (#23600094)
"When the topic is flamebait"

To be clear, which topic specifically are you alluding to because I think anyone with any cognizance on the issues of race and nationalism have a lot of overlapping features and a lot of cloudy, hard to define nuance, so can you please disambiguate in this instance?

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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by dang on Monday June 22, 2020 @01:22PM (#23602904)
I don't think I was thinking of a specific topic when I wrote that. The OP was about Trump and immigration, which is obviously an inflammatory and divisive topic. The arguments about racism, protests, police brutality are others. It's not hard to recognize these.
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